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65s. 3 bet pot. Various questions. 65s. 3 bet pot. Various questions.

11-08-2009 , 02:13 PM
So with hands 65s, 86s, and 75s, and 54s, I lose .35bb per hand. With 27o (something I fold every time), i lose .12bb per hand. I play 6max.

1. Why am I losing .15bb per hand wtih 27o? If I'm just folding it, shouldnt I be losing 1.5 (BB+SB)/6 per hand? That comes out to .25bb per hand. I realize people are also folding to me in the BB and that sometimes flop TP or win the the pot with 27o, but that shouldnt increase it by .1bb. Should it?

2. Why am I losing money with 65s? (This isn't a real question) Are you?

3. I think flatting in this hand is better than raising. I can float flop/bet turn, or call flop/call turn/fold river if he barrels (I assume villain doesnt 3 barrel here with air too often and so the times he 3 barrels is = to the times he b/c flop, so if Villain has a hand that can b/c flop, I might as well call flop/call turn instead of raising the flop). Can someone show me the math? Vs made hands, I lose a flop call and a turn call instead of losing like 8% (54%-46%) of my remaining stack.

4. OOP you just CR flop+get it in right? IP you probably just call/call or call/bet if he checks right? Can someone show me the math of why call/call is more +EV than shipping (assuming villain doesnt 3 barrel air here)

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($372.75)
BB ($771)
UTG ($596)
MP ($1062.90)
CO ($476.50)
Hero (Button) ($706.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6, 5
3 folds, Hero bets $12, 1 fold, BB raises to $40, Hero calls $28

Flop: ($86.50) A, 4, 8 (2 players)
BB bets $68, Hero raises to $220, BB raises to $730.25 (All-In), Hero calls $445.70 (All-In)

Turn: ($1417.90) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($1417.90) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $1417.90 | Rake: $3


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($372.75)
BB ($771)
UTG ($596)
MP ($1062.90)
CO ($476.50)
Hero (Button) ($706.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6, 5
3 folds, Hero bets $12, 1 fold, BB raises to $40, Hero calls $28

Flop: ($86.50) A, 4, 8 (2 players)
BB bets $68, Hero raises to $220, BB raises to $730.25 (All-In), Hero calls $445.70 (All-In)

Turn: ($1417.90) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($1417.90) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $1417.90 | Rake: $3
65s. 3 bet pot. Various questions. Quote
11-08-2009 , 02:35 PM
just call his cbet

he doesnt fold TP to ur flop raise. when u float, u get everything less than TP to fold anyway

u have position and can extract a lot of value when you hit one of ur outs.
65s. 3 bet pot. Various questions. Quote

      
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