Maybe very standard, but i'd appreciate comments.

I'm new to the table and no reads at all. I play about 22/19/2.5 but as said new there.

I'm playing one level bigger than usual and mid pairs can be so hard to play OOP when 3-bet is called so I chickened out and decided to basically set mine / re-evaluate (continue on) good flops.

Flop & turn standard as played pre-flop?

Then river, i didn't see value tbh from worse by check-shoving so I decided just to check-call. Comments?

$3/$6 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG stacksmcgee2 ($1012.00)
UTG+1 lineker_ ($625.10)
CO boniek1971 ($997.20)
BTN Pharity ($591.00)
SB derswede ($317.45)
BB Hero ($610.51)

Pre-flop: ($9, 6 players) Hero is BB 9 9
3 folds, Pharity raises to $22, 1 fold, Hero calls $16

Flop: 3 5 Q ($47, 2 players)
Hero checks, Pharity bets $34, Hero calls $34

Turn: 9 ($115, 2 players)
Hero checks, Pharity bets $81, Hero calls $81

River: K ($277, 2 players)
Hero checks, Pharity bets $220, Hero calls $220

OMG shove the river.

I'm torn between just betting the river or checking though (if you check, your obviously shoving...)

river is obviously not even a questionable shove.

Thanks guys, i'm a donkey.

I was playing out of my comfort level and that's why I didn't 3-bet which is bad.

And then I guess I just confused on river. Just kept thinking that JT got there but it's so stupid cos I would never float with JT OOP and villain obviously isn't scared of that and fold his 2 pair or low set.
Missing a lot of value from 55/33/KQ but i was scared money which i guess is the biggest problem here and why i messed up.

I think turn is good still, a check-raise would be too strong there imo.

He had AK btw so it didn't matter here because he can't call a shove with that. But i messed up.

not 3-betting isn't necessarily bad
not shoving the river is definitely bad!
how do you know your opponent can't call a shove with AK? give him a chance at least. also as you know there are a ton of other hands to get value from

If JT even crossed your mind your hand reading needs a ton of work.

well as said i was playing out of my comfort level and confused.

When thinking this hand i would never play it like this in my own stakes.
I guess that's the answer to a lot of my questions.

wtf?

He can't call a shove with TPTK getting around 4:1? What?

So you think he only shows up with JT here?

Calling an unknown 100bb players shove there with TPTK beating absolutely nothing must surely suck enormous monkey balls. But whatever I guess i should give him the chance to do the bad thing and not do it myself.

And no i ofcourse didn't, arturiusx, think he only shows up with JT. As I said i got confused and just looked at the board stupidly "JT got there and he doesn't call with worse so much anymore"
If the Q9x was the flop, it woulda made sense but now it was just stupid because i obviously am not floating OOP with JT.

obv not but jt is def part of his range given the line...
ur comment made it sound like villain would NEVER show up with jt here which is absurd.
nonetheless river is the easiest of shoves btw. and i like the check-shove.

This hand is badly played in many ways... lessee...

By not 3betting pf, you turn your probably-best hand into a bluffcatcher on the flop unless you planned to donkbet and face a possible reraise that you can't call. By 3betting pf, you set up a bigger pot and villain's range of calling your 3bet consists mostly of unpaired cards and small/mid pockets, meaning your cbet on the flop is going to get a lot of respect. If he 4bet you pre then you also know to dump it.

As played on the turn you MUST bet. You got the best hand now, you want his whole stack, by not betting you are risking a check behind and you end up winning a tiny pot. Ignore the actual result(that he bet) and the replies above.. you MUST bet this turn if you love money AT ALL.. 9 is not a danger card for him at all, if he has ANYTHING he will call/raise your bet.

Now that you're at river and you just call? you must hate money sir.

lol, why is it always the people who suck that get these spots? some of the advice is almost as bad as op.

I played a bit too big stakes for me and misplayed a hand, it happens.

People who only berate here usually don't beat the games themselves and have a grudge. I have nothing to prove about my pokers and I appreciate all the constructive criticism and useful comments.

oh and dont be surprised when u get snapped by ak

There is nothing wrong with flatting pf here.

Arguments could be made for leading, c/c or c/r turn, but unless you c/c flop and lead turn with other parts of your range, I dont love it but it would be ok.

River is obv the easiest check/shove ever as played.

you said if it "even crossed his mind", as if it is absurd to think he could have JT here, when his line is def consistent with that holding. of course its not the ONLY hand villain can have, but its def in his range.

OMG get your money in somewhere

whoa crazy talk. 3-betting pf is borderline spew vs. an unknown. there's no reason to inflate the pot when you have no idea what his calling range is or how he plays postflop.


eh how tf do you know what his calling and fourbetting range is and why do you want to inflate the pot pf when half the time you're praying he doesn't raise your c-bet and the other half you end up posting in msnl titled 99 overpair vs unknown gets raised on flop in threebetpot?

OP doesn't HAVE to do anything, he's trying to figure out how to maximize his expectation and there is a discussion. is donking the turn good here? i don't think villain raises a turn donk with every type of hand he wants to continue with and sometimes people do ******ed **** like double barrel with AceKing high!

no op is trying to maximize, which is why he posted here. you're the only one talking about hate.

Yeah obviously meant only hand. But a turn c/r should be super standard then.

Shove the river.
And yes, Vallain can have 10J sometimes but shove anyways.

def shove the river ur hand is uber under repd.....does j10 not check the turn back a large percentage of the time fearing he could get c/r after turning gin

Ya, and maximizing expectation means getting it in on the turn or flop, not hesitating... and btw I notice your post contained no strategic advice for OP just gibberish against my post.. so what, you disagree with getting it in!?!?

played perfectly if you shoved river.