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600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves 600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves

11-10-2007 , 10:03 PM
GrafKalostro or whatever his name is... he runs like 23/19 but seems to squeeze, 3bet, etc. at every opportunity.

One time he squeezed from the BB, the TAG SB shoved into him, and Graf called for stacks with KJo. He's also taken a big pot off me when he raised flop with a FD, I whiffed turn c/r, and he flushed river against my AA.


I opened 72o UTG and showed down a pair of 7's at this table earlier. Other than that, nothing major. SB is huge fish.

4bet should be smaller, and what should I do vs. the push if I had made it like 230?



Party Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): $676.05
BTN: $561
SB: $239.15
BB: $1,252.45

Pre-Flop: A Q dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $21, BTN folds, SB calls $18, BB raises to $90, Hero raises to $282, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $1,246.45 and is All-In
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:06 PM
lol
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:09 PM
fold, youre prolly beat
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:12 PM
wow that's sick, i usually expect them to flat call.
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:16 PM
what were your other 2437 posts about? investment banking?
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:17 PM
2400 posts?
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:20 PM
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what were your other 2437 posts about? investment banking?
click my name -&gt; show user's posts if you really care ???
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:22 PM
i see most of them are pokerrelated. i dont see how the [censored] this hand causes you any trouble.
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:23 PM
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lol
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:23 PM
Is his range AA+ here?
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:23 PM
Well clearly it did, that's why I posted it, so if it's a snap for you then write something useful or go comment somewhere else?
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:24 PM
HELL [censored] CALL.
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:25 PM
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Is his range AA+ here?
I'm not sure. I haven't been in this spot a lot, what do you think a reasonable range is?
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:27 PM
jesus this better be a huge level. have you ever used pokerstove or just thought about handranges and equity as a concept?
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:29 PM
you start the hand w/ 115bb and you stick 50 of them in PF. what's the question? he could show you exactly KK and you almost have odds to call.

4bet size is awful and so is 4betting AQ w/o the intention of calling 100bb deep...IMO.
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:32 PM
No his range isn't only AA, so call.

But, 4-betting AQ in position here and not knowing how you are going to respond to a shove is a leak.
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11-10-2007 , 10:34 PM
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4bet size is awful and so is 4betting AQ w/o the intention of calling 100bb deep...IMO.
That's what I'm looking for. Do you 4bet in this spot? How much, and do you call a shove?
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:37 PM
if i 4 bet this here and that's a big if. it is very player dependent and i can't tell you if it's right to do so or not...i would 4 bet to 230ish and i would be calling a shove 100% if i 4 bet it.
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:37 PM
alright, just to end this thread:
on this limit and this site and vs this opponent 4betting is totally fine. id just repot it to like 370 or whatever and OBVIOUSLY (if this is not obvious to you, please read a lot in microstakes) call a shove.
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:37 PM
omg
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:38 PM
Any 4-bet with these stacks are going to price you into to calling (unless you min raise or something stupid like that).

So, you have to decide before you 4-bet if you want to play for stacks.
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11-10-2007 , 10:38 PM
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id just repot it to like 370 or whatever
thats gross sizing
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:39 PM
how on earth is the betsizing important? we 4bet, we get it in. if villain is mildly competent he'll know this. hence, it doesnt matter.
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:40 PM
Because 4-betting smaller allows you to 4-bet bluff sometimes?
600 party  I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves Quote
11-10-2007 , 10:41 PM
guess it's not important if you absolutely never 4bet bluff, in which case you should also probably never 4bet AQ since longterm you'll be getting the money in very bad.

i mean if you make it 370 what does he put the rest in w/?
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