Im having trouble playing draws so have posted 2 hands that sum up my problem. Please let me know how to remove my head from my @rse when playing them

1)


Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15.00/t30.00 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t1235.00 M = 27.44
Hero (BTN/SB): t1765.00 M = 39.22

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with A J
Hero raises to t90, BB calls t60

Flop: (t180) 8 T Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t120.00, BB calls t120

Turn: (t420) 2 (2 players)
BB bets t300.00, Hero calls t300

River: (t1020) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

2) I did feel Id get paid if i hit this one as he had bet the river a couple of times and was fairly loose.



Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15.00/t30.00 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t1235.00 M = 27.44
Hero (BTN/SB): t1765.00 M = 39.22

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with A J
Hero raises to t90, BB calls t60

Flop: (t180) 8 T Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t120.00, BB calls t120

Turn: (t420) 2 (2 players)
BB bets t300.00, Hero calls t300

River: (t1020) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

First off, you have posted the same hand twice. Second, what type of player is your opponent?

Flop c-bet seems okay with a strong combo draw. On turn, I'd prolly shove.. Any K, 9 and clubs (=15 outs) will almost certainly win the pot for you, and 3 aces in the deck are likely to be additional outs.

I think you played the hand fine, up to the river.

How often does he lead out huge with a single 2 on the turn? What hand couldve he had called the flop with for a 2 to be helpful? If he had 82, 102, Q2, this is sort of an odd bet. It looks like a blocking bet on a draw or bottom/mid pair from flop.

I like a call on the turn, but once the second 2 spikes on the river, I'm always shoving to a check.

thanks lads i really need to start playing these alot better ill post the other hand in minute on a new thread

cheers

nh, wp. Turn shove can never be too bad and is definitely the best play with the right reads but readless i like your line.

whether to call or jam turn is read-dependant imo; none of them too bad... checking river looks std, puke if he shows 78 or smth stupid like that

it was K8o ill get the sick bag!

i probly jam the turn imo u have plenty of outs

I like how you played it. at 6$ turbos you don't have much fold equity but get paid when you hit. So I'd rather call turn than shove.

Also bluffing river seems bad.