PF is totally standard. This is only the fifth hand- we've been trading chips back and forth without anything really popping out.

His turn betsize kinda puts me in push/fold mode... I don't think I can EVER flat the turn and then fold the river- so it just seems like I have to get it in or let it go. Is his range here wider than just flushes?

Full Tilt Poker $6 + 0.25 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t1515 M = 33.67
Hero (BTN/SB): t1485 M = 33

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with 4 4
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t30

Flop: (t120) 4 5 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t60, BB calls t60

Turn: (t240) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t120, BB raises to t600, Hero raises to t1365 all in, BB calls t765

River: (t2970) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

I play it the same, definitely not folding.

i fold river if decision wasnt on turn but turn is completely fine

in his range there are a lot of Kx / 2 pairs.
turn shove is good.

just bet bigger on turn, you're giving him a very good price with all those draws...

Please bet MOAARRRR on the flop and turn.

Pot flop, pot turn. Fold as played.

3/4 is fine

No, that loses too much value...if we 3/4 the flop and the turn then the pot is 850 on the river and we have about 5/4 of the pot in our stack, but if we pot the flop and the turn then the pot is 1080 on the river and we have just under a PSB left.

Given stationy reads (or just the $6.25) pot is ofc fine. Plenty of times though the higher % of turns/rivers seen (getting hands like Jh4x to call all the way) makes up for the extra value when we would have gotten 3 full pot streets. 3/4 also is more inviting of a raise imo. We're not looking to set the pot up to stack him the highest % of the time, we're looking for the best avg. chip expectation from the hand. Sometimes it's one and the same, but it doesn't have to be.

standard. but cant u find a fold somewhere?

+1

Board is wet and we have a set. I usually pot the flop and 3/4 the turn.

This isn't my hand, and I don't know if this is the case w/OP, but...

When I raise PF, I raise 3xBB and then followup w/ a 1/2 pot bet, everytime (hit or miss). My thought is that this way I don't give the villain any info on whether I hit or not, it keeps my c-bets (bluffs) low and is usually enough to take the pot if villain misses.

Am I passing up too much value here? Should I not concern myself w/ giving away info to opponent (as most don't pay attention) not trying to hijack the thread, but as the conversation turned to the size of his flop bet, I thought it was appropriate.

How are you ever planning to get stacks in (when you're ahead) when you only bet half a pot on the (mega drawy) flop?

Even if you want to minraise preflop with 50bb (which I don't understand tbh), you should definately bet $90-110 on the flop. Threre is just too many hands scaring him away on the turn or giving him the best hand. A, 2, 6, 7 and all hearts are either killing your action or giving him a better hand.

But I'd much raise to 90 preflop and bet 140 on the flop... that makes our decisions on later streets much easier. Your betsizing really sucks... also if you had bet like 200 on the turn I'd be much happier folding this because we never really beat anything he raises... but when you bet that small folding becomes much harder.

Half a pot isn't really getting much to fold. Gutshot + overcard, A high etc. will call you... On the other hand, when you hit you're not getting value and giving him good odds to draw.



Betting is "progressive", so if you bet 90 to 180 pot on the flop instead of 130, you are losing 40 value on the flop... here's some quick calculations, A = cbet 90, B = cbet 130

A turn: pot is 360... so 3/4 pot bet is 270.
B turn: pot is 440, so 3/4 pot bet is 330.

A river: pot is 900... 1050 behind (if 1500-1500)
B river: pot is 1100... 950 behind.

= even if you get called just for 2 streets when you've made a hand, you are still making 100 more in profit... And also setting stacks much better for a river shove. Especially if effective stacks are only like 1000-1300, you get him pretty much committed (with made hands) on the turn... Unlike with 1/2 pot cbet.

You are also getting more hands to fold on the flop (like overcard + gutshot), so it isn't really either making cbets less profitable.

What you should do instead is bet more or less according to the flop texture. On wetter boards, bet more and bluff less often, and on drier boards, bet less and bluff more often. You still don't give any info this way, but you adjust to flop textures appropriately.

You can and should accomplish both by doing the above.

80 on flop and 180 or 200 on turn; dont fold, sorry he had you beat