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07-25-2019 , 11:46 PM

Check_The_Nuts

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River check raise good here? Rest seem ok or bad? Also yes this is an old hand as pp no longer has huds/hh's.

partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 202 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 7)
SB: 213.4 BB (VPIP: 19.46, PFR: 14.09, 3Bet Preflop: 4.48, Hands: 155)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 104.2 BB (VPIP: 19.51, PFR: 19.51, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)
MP: 182.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 151.8 BB (VPIP: 19.83, PFR: 14.66, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 121)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, SB calls 1.6 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 3 players) 3

SB checks, Hero bets 4.2 BB, BTN calls 4.2 BB, fold

Turn: (14.4 BB, 2 players) A

Hero bets 11.6 BB, BTN calls 11.6 BB

River: (37.6 BB, 2 players) 6

Hero checks looking to check raise?

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07-25-2019 , 11:51 PM

Zuko

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x/r turn would make sense i guess.

But why x/r river? what is he supposed to bet/call with?

i mean when you barrel turn you rep 2pair + or draw.

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07-26-2019 , 05:19 AM

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adept

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Agree that x/r turn would be okay.

Think block betting river looks good. This induces a bluff sometimes and gets value from his weaker value range. He won't have very many bet calls (if any) based on action.

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07-26-2019 , 05:44 AM

YouBetIcall

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x/r turn is quite bad IMO, x/r river is ok at some freq

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07-26-2019 , 05:54 AM

andreicos

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Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 1,250

In theory both x/r and lead ott should be good, though I'm not sure he's going to be betting enough when x to, to make x/r better than leading ?

I think otr you should look to get value from his top pairs, although he also has a lot of missed draws, I still think leading earns you more money.

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07-26-2019 , 06:20 AM

yasuo

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villain unlikely to bluff river vs our line. probably just bet ourself

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07-26-2019 , 06:51 AM

YouBetIcall

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Originally Posted by yasuo

villain unlikely to bluff river vs our line. probably just bet ourself

so if he has 78 or some FD he is just going to give up?

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07-26-2019 , 08:35 AM

duckyfAL

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Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 592

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Originally Posted by yasuo

villain unlikely to bluff river vs our line. probably just bet ourself

this, he seems to have some sd value, if i were the villan im checking back river.

I dont like the flop donk anyways.

And i would sqz this hand preflop.

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Originally Posted by YouBetIcall

so if he has 78 or some FD he is just going to give up?

Why not ? you dont have to bluff every miss fd. And hero is betting 2 streets even when the A came ott, when the A hits better the btm range and you would be checkign a lot ott against an A

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07-26-2019 , 08:54 AM

YouBetIcall

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Originally Posted by duckyfAL

Why not ? you dont have to bluff every miss fd. And hero is betting 2 streets even when the A came ott, when the A hits better the btm range and you would be checkign a lot ott against an A

Why is the A better card for the BTN?

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07-26-2019 , 12:12 PM

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duckyfAL

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Originally Posted by YouBetIcall

Why is the A better card for the BTN?

on terms of ranges.

if you had 76. 86. q6ss, k6ss i think you will check more on this turn then bet.

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07-26-2019 , 01:14 PM

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YouBetIcall

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Originally Posted by duckyfAL

on terms of ranges.

what hands from his range improve? It's not like he get to turn with hands like Ax, so i'm not sure why you think this is good turn card for him?

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07-26-2019 , 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by YouBetIcall

what hands from his range improve? It's not like he get to turn with hands like Ax, so i'm not sure why you think this is good turn card for him?

what about Axdd, A3, A5, A4, A2...

Deffo some Acex in there

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07-26-2019 , 02:59 PM

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WorldzMine

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Originally Posted by YouBetIcall

what hands from his range improve? It's not like he get to turn with hands like Ax, so i'm not sure why you think this is good turn card for him?

Why do you believe this? The majority of bad players float hands they shouldn't for the sole purpose of bluffing the turn after you check. This is by far the main line used by the majority of players that are bad enough to just flat hands IP.

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07-26-2019 , 03:27 PM

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nar160

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Bet river, big. Drawy board and both turn and river are scare cards - you can certainly rep bluffs by emptying the clip here. C/r river doesn't really make sense as a bluff - with a hand like 88 you're much more likely to c/c picking off bluffs than to c/r and try fold out Ax or 6x.

Not sure if 32 bb, 48 bb, or all-in is best. Ovb prob better in theory since you should be polarized, but in local pop might just never get called.

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