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05-08-2016 , 09:54 AM
Was wondering if I should 3 bet turn or just flat the raise from villain?


PokerStars Zoom Hand #153017528992: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2016/05/08 9:14:43 ET
Table 'Donati' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Karrlitos1 ($6.87 in chips)
Seat 2: DongjunHS ($4.81 in chips)
Seat 3: Medusa118 ($5 in chips)
Seat 4: joekor00 ($11.39 in chips)
Seat 5: amuckAK ($5.79 in chips)
Seat 6: MF1406 ($5.66 in chips)
DongjunHS: posts small blind $0.02
Medusa118: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Karrlitos1 [7h 7d]
joekor00: raises $0.10 to $0.15
amuckAK: folds
MF1406: folds
Karrlitos1: calls $0.15
DongjunHS: calls $0.13
Medusa118: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ks 4d 7c]
DongjunHS: checks
joekor00: bets $0.24
Karrlitos1: calls $0.24
DongjunHS: folds
*** TURN *** [Ks 4d 7c] [Ad]
joekor00: checks
Karrlitos1: bets $0.66
joekor00: raises $1.13 to $1.79
Karrlitos1: raises $4.52 to $6.31
joekor00: raises $4.69 to $11 and is all-in
Karrlitos1: calls $0.17 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($4.52) returned to joekor00
*** RIVER *** [Ks 4d 7c Ad] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
joekor00: shows [As Qd] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
Karrlitos1: shows [7h 7d] (three of a kind, Sevens)
Karrlitos1 collected $13.36 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.94 | Rake $0.58
Board [Ks 4d 7c Ad Qh]
Seat 1: Karrlitos1 (button) showed [7h 7d] and won ($13.36) with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 2: DongjunHS (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Medusa118 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: joekor00 showed [As Qd] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 5: amuckAK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MF1406 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
5nl set Quote
05-08-2016 , 09:56 AM
    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37327997

    Hero (BTN): $6.87 (137.4 bb)
    SB: $4.81 (96.2 bb)
    BB: $5 (100 bb)
    UTG: $11.39 (227.8 bb)
    MP: $5.79 (115.8 bb)
    CO: $5.66 (113.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 7
    UTG raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB folds

    Flop: ($0.50) K 4 7 (3 players)
    SB checks, UTG bets $0.24, Hero calls $0.24, SB folds

    Turn: ($0.98) A (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $0.66, UTG raises to $1.79, Hero raises to $6.31, UTG raises to $11 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.17 and is all-in

    River: ($13.94) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $13.94 pot ($0.58 rake)
    Final Board: K 4 7 A Q
    Hero showed 7 7 and won $13.36 ($6.49 net)
    UTG showed A Q and lost (-$6.87 net)



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    5nl set Quote
    05-08-2016 , 11:01 AM
    I would raise flop. As played i think 3betting turn is good, I think people generally stack off more on the turn with one card to come then on the river, and we can't really expect villian to bluff rivers on such a board, so 3betting turn is better IMO.
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    05-08-2016 , 11:05 AM
    Well played, easy game. what was the question?
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    05-08-2016 , 11:18 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shamway99
    Well played, easy game. what was the question?
    Thank you for your response. Was just wondering if I should 3 bet turn or not? I know I'm ahead quite alot here but i asked if it was better to GII on turn or wait for river.
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    05-08-2016 , 11:27 AM
    Gii ott if possible. Ofc he can have AA/KK but I doubt he folds AK, it is enough for valuebet.
    Waiting to the river is not good, unless you believe that he can bluff turn/river.
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    05-08-2016 , 11:27 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Andy Art
    I would raise flop. As played i think 3betting turn is good, I think people generally stack off more on the turn with one card to come then on the river, and we can't really expect villian to bluff rivers on such a board, so 3betting turn is better IMO.
    I don't think we should really be having a raising range on a board this dry? Or I'm wrong, idk. And it's not bad if SB comes along aswell.
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    05-08-2016 , 12:27 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karrlitos1
    I don't think we should really be having a raising range on a board this dry? Or I'm wrong, idk. And it's not bad if SB comes along aswell.
    Oh, I didn't saw that the pot is threeway, then calling seems pretty good.The reason why i want to raise flop is because we are pretty deep and it will be harder to get stacks in until river if we just call. If the player is bad, which should be our general assumption at NL5 (fish until proven otherwise), he probably will call and stack of with a King or better here, maybe even something worse ^^ If it would be 100BB i would flat as well on such a board because we will still be able to get his whole stack and give him the chance to bluff or catch something on the turn.

    This deep however if we were headsup I think it is more important to build the pot, but this is just my oppinion and I may be wrong.
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    05-08-2016 , 05:02 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Andy Art
    Oh, I didn't saw that the pot is threeway, then calling seems pretty good.The reason why i want to raise flop is because we are pretty deep and it will be harder to get stacks in until river if we just call. If the player is bad, which should be our general assumption at NL5 (fish until proven otherwise), he probably will call and stack of with a King or better here, maybe even something worse ^^ If it would be 100BB i would flat as well on such a board because we will still be able to get his whole stack and give him the chance to bluff or catch something on the turn.

    This deep however if we were headsup I think it is more important to build the pot, but this is just my oppinion and I may be wrong.
    It doesn't matter if you're wrong as long as you give reasons for your statements, and that you're willing to accept feedback. It's the hallmark of a player who's actually trying to improve.

    FWIW I would raise deep HU OTF as well, however with the SB in the hand and potentially calling (getting a good price and closing the action) I'm taking OPs line. I think your analysis is pretty good Andy, just make sure you read those hand histories well before commenting!
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    05-08-2016 , 06:08 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by markodpoker
    It doesn't matter if you're wrong as long as you give reasons for your statements, and that you're willing to accept feedback. It's the hallmark of a player who's actually trying to improve.

    FWIW I would raise deep HU OTF as well, however with the SB in the hand and potentially calling (getting a good price and closing the action) I'm taking OPs line. I think your analysis is pretty good Andy, just make sure you read those hand histories well before commenting!
    Thanks and good to know Haha i will! :P
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    05-08-2016 , 06:08 PM
    Don't post other people's SNs. Otheriwse WP
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