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5NL RUSH QQ on K high board 5NL RUSH QQ on K high board

10-09-2010 , 06:34 PM
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($5.93)
Hero (UTG) ($5.48)
MP ($5.33)
CO ($3)
Button ($5.47)
SB ($5)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
Hero bets $0.17, MP calls $0.17, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.41) 8, 8, K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.25, MP calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.91) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.65, MP raises to $1.48, Hero folds

Total pot: $2.21 | Rake: $0.14

I would like some advice on this hand.
C-bet is the same size I would make it with AK/KQ probably as only a flushdraw would have decent equity against top pair.
Villain calls the flop which I have seen them do a lot on pretty much any flop after calling a preflop raise.
Turn card is very unlikely to have hit his range. I second barrel. Mistake?
He makes a very small reraise, what should we think his range is at this point?
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10-09-2010 , 06:35 PM
cbet flop since your gonna get floated a bit by a few hands.

turn id c-c c-f depending on stats/info/reads and bet sizing.
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10-09-2010 , 06:39 PM
Doesn't a c/c encourage villain to bet again on the river as it's unlikely we would take this line with a king?
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10-09-2010 , 06:40 PM
I would be inclined to go for value on the turn/river, I think you'll get called down much lighter and we're not getting outdrawn much here so no need to protect really, and 2 barreling is getting pretty thin. As it happens if he bets flop/turn you probably have to give up on turn, as played fold turn.
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10-09-2010 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Octmeister
Doesn't a c/c encourage villain to bet again on the river as it's unlikely we would take this line with a king?
you have not given us enough info on villain, so going on what I know, when we beat the turn, what are we hoping to get called by that we beat?
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10-09-2010 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vikingkong
I would be inclined to go for value on the turn/river... 2 barreling is getting pretty thin
??? You seem to be contradicting yourself. And how can we go for value when any K beats us?
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10-09-2010 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by blackgerbil1
you have not given us enough info on villain, so going on what I know, when we beat the turn, what are we hoping to get called by that we beat?
I didn't have any reads/stats yet on villain.

I meant, if we check, he could bluff the turn as we would likely bet with a king.
And after seeing us just call the turn, and check the river he will probably bluff again just because we look so weak.

So c/f is better than b/f without reads?
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10-09-2010 , 06:51 PM
As other posters have said any view on villain? Also how might he view you?
Against a tight player no need to bet turn, better keep pot small. Your hand doesn't need protecting. If you're behind no point in betting, if you're ahead you'll almost certainly be ahead after the river. If turn goes check,check consider betting river (unless Ace, flush card or straight card comes).
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10-09-2010 , 06:54 PM
A PP might peel a flop cbet, but you´re not getting 2 streets in a K-high board w/o previous history. I prefer a delayed cbet (b/f)
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10-09-2010 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gsiciliano
A PP might peel a flop cbet, but you´re not getting 2 streets in a K-high board w/o previous history. I prefer a delayed cbet (b/f)
a pp is prob only ever calling 2 streets max, which would be the flop and turn, i dont see what a delay cbet oop with our hand achieves.
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10-09-2010 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by halftilt
??? You seem to be contradicting yourself. And how can we go for value when any K beats us?
Eh not really. Obviously he can call flush draws on flop/turn but I think he's going to call with worse more on turn/river than flop/turn. The kx part of his range is irrelevant because that's never folding, I'm just trying to target the bits of his range that will call us.

I don't think there's a huge EV difference here. I think PPs that call flop/turn are more likely to call turn/river tbh.
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