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01-25-2012 , 01:55 PM

lofcuk

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,531

Villain 12/12/43 agg % only 51 hands
4.8 3bet

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11691412

SB: $12.14 (242.8 bb)
BB: $3.16 (63.2 bb)
UTG+2: $3.45 (69 bb)
MP1: $2.02 (40.4 bb)
MP2: $5.62 (112.4 bb)
Hero (MP3): $7.76 (155.2 bb)
CO: $5.66 (113.2 bb)
BTN: $4.53 (90.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, SB raises to $0.65, BB folds, Hero calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.35) Q

(2 players)
SB bets $0.65, Hero calls $0.65

Turn: ($2.65) 2

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.65) J

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

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I call the 3bet because I have position and 4.8 is something like

99+,AJs+,KQs,AKo only one combo better than me

2 combos go ahead on the flop, but what is that just under half bet pot? Is that his standard cbet? I have shown the initial strength and called his 3bet. Is he going to bet bigger if he has it?
Brick turn - can I value bet a 12/12 here?
I don't want to get c/r on the river so give in.
How do the stack sizes come into play?
What other lines am I looking for here?

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01-25-2012 , 02:02 PM

kristiano

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 545

4b Preflop, for value-.
Raise flop- Call flop-
Bet Turn-
Shove River-

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01-25-2012 , 02:04 PM

baohoa

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,034

i like it pre, being on the deepish side. it also depends on your image though.
as played pre flop is ok
bet turn for value though
as played ott i b/f river

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01-25-2012 , 02:05 PM

lofcuk

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,531

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Originally Posted by kristiano

4b Preflop, for value-.
Raise flop- Call flop-
Bet Turn-
Shove River-

You are saying I missed a lot of value?

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01-25-2012 , 02:09 PM

lofcuk

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,531

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Originally Posted by baohoa

i like it pre, being on the deepish side. it also depends on your image though.
as played pre flop is ok
bet turn for value though
as played ott i b/f river

I play about 13/10 but look to steal against the tight passives a lot, so image may be looser than actual.

I didn't bet turn because of his image 12/12 is that too safe? too small a sample?

So the river check is OK? I have to fold to reraise?

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01-25-2012 , 02:11 PM

kristiano

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 545

In general when a villain take a 3b/Cbet/Ceck/Check line on a Qh flop KK is a big favourite-

Exactly as played you should be betting when checked, if he raises at some point it is a different story though-.

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01-25-2012 , 03:07 PM

meekrab

veteran

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,791

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Originally Posted by kristiano

In general when a villain take a 3b/Cbet/Ceck/Check line on a Qh flop KK is a big favourite-

Yeah he's not checking the turn with anything that beats you. River card kinda sucks for you but you have to bet the turn imo.

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01-26-2012 , 08:13 AM

MartL

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10,637

Dont mind pre again.

On the turn your ahead like 99% of the time when this villain checks. Up to you now you can either make a normal sized bet and expect to get a lot of folds or bet small, i would go about $.50 to make him call with his range we have crushed. Only thing is you have to be prepared for what people do against small bets which is sometimes spaz and raise them so when i decide to make the small bet here it is with the intention of calling a raise then calling the river.

As played on the river im making a bet as his hand looks pretty face up as Ak or an underpair to the board so im betting pretty small again to get crying calls.

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01-26-2012 , 08:20 AM

Scarykid

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 171

51 hands and your using his 3bet stat to just call ? lol
you need 300+ hands to use 3bet properly

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01-26-2012 , 08:46 AM

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MartL

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10,637

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Originally Posted by Scarykid

51 hands and your using his 3bet stat to just call ? lol
you need 300+ hands to use 3bet properly

Yeah read it wrong, my bad. Makes it more of a call in my eyes given im treating him as a pretty much unknown now. Usually im going to be 3betting with position to get reads on how people react to 3bets.

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01-26-2012 , 12:51 PM

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lofcuk

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,531

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Originally Posted by MartL

The thing I like about your analysis here, is the plan for future streets. Something I am looking to work on. As you probably know, Tommy Angelo makes the point about anticipation, if you know what to expect, it takes all the pain from it. Even though he also makes the point of planning street by street.

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