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5NL; rivered set faces river shove 5NL; rivered set faces river shove

09-24-2013 , 02:57 PM
BB, over 139 hands:

24/10 AF1,5 3B2,6





    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BTN: $6.69 (133.8 bb)
    SB: $6.85 (137 bb)
    BB: $4.81 (96.2 bb)
    UTG: $6.22 (124.4 bb)
    MP: $5 (100 bb)
    Hero (CO): $5.38 (107.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 9
    UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.25, MP calls $0.15

    Flop: ($0.92) 3 2 5 (3 players)
    BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60, MP folds

    Turn: ($2.12) 8 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB calls $1

    River: ($4.12) 9 (2 players)
    BB bets $2.91, Hero calls $2.91

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    09-24-2013 , 04:40 PM
    Is MP that fishy that you 3b pf? Why only 2x size of MPs open?
    Whats BBs range after calling flop? Turn bet is too thin imo.
    River is meh but since he might 4bet AcKc pf and from flushes has only like AcQc and maybe AcJc I would call.
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    09-24-2013 , 04:50 PM
    Reason for min raising pre?

    Check turn, 8X doesn't call and not many 8X in his range I assume, also he still has TT-QQ.

    River is a sigh, not sure what to do, may be a fold though looking at his stats.
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    09-24-2013 , 04:53 PM
    no regrets calling river. pre flat call or 3bet bigger.
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    09-24-2013 , 04:58 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Clive Bixby
    Is MP that fishy that you 3b pf? Why only 2x size of MPs open?
    ye sorry i should have explained that

    he wasn't a reg so, as it's 5nl, prob. a fish

    i isolated because there was a squeezer or two at the table, don't remember whom (i'm writing from the phone) so basically i'm 3betting with the intention to avoid 3 bet bluffs and play with MP HU. As probabily 2x does the trick as well as 3x and i want to keep weak hands in..
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    09-24-2013 , 05:09 PM
    Bad reasoning - if the opener is fish (not sure tho - std open sizing, plays 100bb,...) we want to get MAX VALUE with our 3bet if he calls, thats the trick and thats why you should go bigger with your sizing. Still prefer flat.
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    09-24-2013 , 05:10 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Clive Bixby
    Turn bet is too thin imo.

    it's because i didn't want to be committed with pocket 99 otr and i had the intention to fold if he raised me all in ott

    how much do u think guys i should've bet
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    09-24-2013 , 05:14 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I shot the sheriff
    it's because i didn't want to be committed with pocket 99 otr and i had the intention to fold if he raised me all in ott
    I dont understand You dont want to commit yourself so you bet?

    Do you know the meaning of bet being (too) "thin"? (no offense!!!)

    I think you should check because there are no more worse hands you get more value from.
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    09-24-2013 , 05:15 PM
    [QUOTE=Clive Bixby;40298533]Bad reasoning - if the opener is fish (not sure tho - std open sizing, plays 100bb,...) we want to get MAX VALUE with our 3bet if he calls, thats the trick and thats why you should go bigger with your sizing. Still prefer flat.[/QUOT

    pherabs, for sure in a standard situation. But by flatting we are facing squeezes that we can't call, and not many fishes have a standard 3bet calling range worse than 99, and we have position
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    09-24-2013 , 05:22 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Clive Bixby
    I dont understand You dont want to commit yourself so you bet?

    Do you know the meaning of bet being (too) "thin"? (no offense!!!)

    I think you should check because there are no more worse hands you get more value from.


    ye sorry my bad, i always confuse "betting is too thin" with "the bet was too small" i'll take english lessons one day or the other


    so does everybody agrre checking turn is the right play? if yes from which overpair would u start to bet? if i check and he bets on a blank river what should i do then?
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    09-24-2013 , 05:24 PM
    Really dislike pre with the information 'no reg, so prob fish' (also dislike this information, would rather say unkown than fish).

    And if MP is a fish the sqeeuzers behind you won't sqeeuze light and if they do sqeeuze, there is a good chance fish will call and we can setmine perfectly.
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    09-24-2013 , 07:39 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Patje90
    Really dislike pre with the information 'no reg, so prob fish' (also dislike this information, would rather say unkown than fish).
    I understand u don't agree with that, still, at 5 NL, beeing not a reg myself but still having acdecent hand sample at this stake on this room, i strongly bealive my statement cannot be that wrong even if it's not precise
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    09-24-2013 , 07:46 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Patje90
    Really dislike pre with the information 'no reg, so prob fish' (also dislike this information, would rather say unkown than fish).

    And if MP is a fish the sqeeuzers behind you won't sqeeuze light
    maybe not. Often yes. Generally at 5NL people with a 3b% higher than 9% are fishes themselves, they'll just squeeze.. sometimes they r good or semi/good players, not always easy to remember whom is whom..
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    09-24-2013 , 07:49 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Patje90
    if they do sqeeuze, there is a good chance fish will call and we can setmine perfectly.
    this is a very interesting point, i didn't think about that. Ty
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    09-25-2013 , 08:49 AM
    I also don't like pre. Happy to call river as played
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