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5NL: rivered a flush, fish went all in other fish called 5NL: rivered a flush, fish went all in other fish called

07-31-2010 , 03:41 AM
Both villains are playing between 50-60/5-10/ and 1-5 agg factor

Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $4.78
BB: $2.67
UTG: $3.56
MP: $7.90
Hero (CO): $6.13
BTN: $2.43

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with 8 6
UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.15, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.65) A 4 T (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.65) 8 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.65) K (4 players)
SB bets $4.63 all in, UTG folds, MP calls $4.63, Hero ??
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07-31-2010 , 05:07 AM
I'd really like to know the timing on the MP river call... it's that bet i'm more interested in than the SB push on the river. If it was a considered call perhaps he has QJo and couldn't fold a straight.

Not sure why you didnt bet that flop though?
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07-31-2010 , 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Sestefi
I'd really like to know the timing on the MP river call... it's that bet i'm more interested in than the SB push on the river. If it was a considered call perhaps he has QJo and couldn't fold a straight.

Not sure why you didnt bet that flop though?
Well, I think he paused for like 2 secs then called.

Looks like we just saw a leak, thanks for the heads up.
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07-31-2010 , 09:54 AM
Any more comments?
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07-31-2010 , 10:01 AM
fold. there are to many bigger Flushes out there...

dont limp behind preflop. Its NL5 so just fold.

my raise range would be any PP/AQ+/AJs here. Maybe a bit wider if they fold a lot to cbets.
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07-31-2010 , 10:14 AM
I agree, and think a fold may be our best play pre. We want to get in pots against these guys with hands that tend to make TPGK or TPTK, and then value bet the shizz out of them. 86s is a great hand against a more solid player, but tends to get us in trouble spots against fishier players.
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07-31-2010 , 10:43 AM
Definitely fold pre, but as played on the river I can't fold this. Fishes would play sets, random two pair and straights exactly the same way.
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07-31-2010 , 10:59 AM
It's close to an even money bet for nearly a buy in, i'd lean toward folding.
He shows up with a better flush just too often. If it were 3:1 on the call it's a no brainer, but you just need to consider if he is overplaying a hand what hands does the Kc help. If he JQ he has the straight. KT fits as well.
And after those hands it's flushes all the way and you will be behind more often than not.
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