Villian is 12/10 3-bet% 7.3 AF: 2.3 TAG.

At first i have to say that i am not happy with my play and wants to know how to play QQ in this spot. We have to be careful because it is TAG which does not 3bet any hand. but should we always expect KK-AA here? AK is another option but i dont think that a flip is +ev also.

I think i have to fold QQ preflop here. After the flop i dont know what to do, i know that my cbet is much too small because i feared the ace here. c/f the better option here? Does the turn check give us information he did not have the ace and we should bet it? Will he fold KK there? i really dont know how to play these kind of spots!


Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Replayer
Hero ($9.50)
BB ($12.21)
UTG ($5.47)
UTG+1 ($12.55)
CO ($5.80)
BTN ($10.74)

Dealt to Hero Q Q

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.20, fold, BTN raises to $0.65, Hero raises to $1.90, fold, fold, BTN calls $1.25

FLOP ($4.05) A 6 2

Hero bets $1.75, BTN calls $1.75

TURN ($7.55) A 6 2 T

Hero checks, BTN checks

RIVER ($7.55) A 6 2 T 6

Hero checks, BTN checks

no ideas or some kind of crappy question?

I like the 4bet pre, 7.3% 3bet is not that tight. I dont understand what you mean by "i dont think that a flip is +ev". A flip is per definition neither +ev nor -ev, as its fifty fifty. Folding QQ pre would be way too weak imo.
Postflop is fine with me. If your usual cbet size is bigger, you should bet bigger on the flop. I dont have KK in his range postflop, not shoving KK preflop in a 6handed game would be pretty rare.

FYI, it's a 4bet pot, not a 3bet pot. I might cbet bigger, but otherwise, it's fine. c/f if he bets anywhere.

Edit: nvm, it says v TAG 3bet, which is accurate.

Betting the river would be super thin, but his hand looks so much like JJ...

Yeah I think it looks fine as well, except for the c-bet sizing.

You will want to bring this hand to showdown a lot.

Flat his 3bet or 4bet larger. Either is ok with us being 200bb deep.
I don't understand why lead this flop?

Check flop is better imo and if he checks behind then lead the turn. I'd prolly call at least one barrel on the flop though. I think leading this flop for so little is worse than check/folding it lol


His range is most likely AQ+, and TT+. He doesn't have TT when he checks the turn ever. If I had played this hand as it is to the river I would have bet it. AQ and AK would have bet the turn no? Looks much more like he has some pocket pair and is scared of the Ace.

Supossing c/f the flop and bet the turn. Do we play c/f the river again then?

For your information: He has KK and won the pot! -.-

I didn't say to c/f the flop. C/c is much better. If he checks behind, you lead the turn and river. I seriously doubt he would check behind on the flop with AK or AQ here. Sure he had KK this time, but he also coulda had QQ or JJ. Unless you have a bad image he folds KK to turn and river bet pretty often

thank you for your opinion!

the KK information was adressed to everyone, not especially on your post!

KK would have really surprised me, but either way its not relevant for the discussion.

i know! just wanted to let you know! very strange line imo :-)