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5NL limping UTG at a passive weak table 5NL limping UTG at a passive weak table

09-10-2010 , 01:17 PM
The table I was at was very weak. If I raised 4xBB I was guaranteed no action. With such weak players, could I just limp from UTG? The odds of me being raised are relatively small, around 33%.

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
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9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Soncy ($14.09)
UTG+1 Hero ($5.93)
MP1 chommpin ($13.40)
MP2 junior333333 ($1.34)
MP3 Deater ($12.82)
CO kirysgs ($3)
BTN Jason924 ($6.60)
SB murrader31 ($3.15)
BB varone3737 ($4.40)

Pre-Flop: ($0.12, 9 players) Hero is UTG+1 5 9
[kirysgs posts $0.05]
1 fold, Hero folds, 1 fold, junior333333 calls $0.05, 1 fold, kirysgs checks, 2 folds, varone3737 checks

Flop: 4 9 5 ($0.17, 3 players)
varone3737 checks, junior333333 bets $0.10, kirysgs folds, varone3737 folds
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09-10-2010 , 01:19 PM
Why would you even want to play 95?
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09-10-2010 , 01:24 PM
Hero folded pre right.

Why would you want to raise with 95o and why would you be worried about getting no action.
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09-10-2010 , 01:24 PM
1. In hand converter change output options to Position names not player names.

2. Don't post results.

3. FOLD pre. Seriously just fold your trash pre UTG.
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09-10-2010 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by macvolcan
1. In hand converter change output options to Position names not player names.

2. Don't post results.

3. FOLD pre. Seriously just fold your trash pre UTG.
He did fold pre. Didn't he.


EDIT: where do you get 33% from?
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09-10-2010 , 01:28 PM
If your question is about limping pre with implied odds hands (like small PP's), you can get away with it at loose passive tables. It is an effective strategy at 2NL and 5NL, but once you get to 10NL it takes a certain type of table to make it profitable. By 25NL you can pretty much forget about it.
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09-10-2010 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by shane5495
He did fold pre. Didn't he.
Ya he did, hes worried that he "folded two pair"! "don't know what you have till you see the flop"
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09-10-2010 , 02:12 PM
I just posted the hand to show the non aggressiveness of the table, guess it's not really needed.

That was just my main question though, if at a weak tight table if I can open wider or even limp UTG. I actually limped UTG a few time then reraised when someone raised, and only once was I contested.
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09-10-2010 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by droidd
I just posted the hand to show the non aggressiveness of the table, guess it's not really needed.

That was just my main question though, if at a weak tight table if I can open wider or even limp UTG. I actually limped UTG a few time then reraised when someone raised, and only once was I contested.
Posting player names instead of positions makes baby Jesus cry.

I don't suggest opening your range wider at a weak table, at 5NL players are often willing to play a lot of marginal stuff pre-flop whether they have to limp or call a raise. You're better off tightening up OOP and picking good spots.

Is limping OK UTG occasionally at this level? Sure, I personally would stick to mid-pockets. If you're actually considering limping 95o UTG+1 though, you need to seriously re-evaluate your strategy at 5NL.
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09-10-2010 , 07:29 PM
I think a better counterpart to this plan is to play lots of hands from the button in pots that are multiway - even hands like 95o. It's more profitable and will work at higher stakes.
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09-10-2010 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MexiKen
Posting player names instead of positions makes baby Jesus cry.

I don't suggest opening your range wider at a weak table, at 5NL players are often willing to play a lot of marginal stuff pre-flop whether they have to limp or call a raise. You're better off tightening up OOP and picking good spots.

Is limping OK UTG occasionally at this level? Sure, I personally would stick to mid-pockets. If you're actually considering limping 95o UTG+1 though, you need to seriously re-evaluate your strategy at 5NL.
I wasn't going to play it, but the hand got me to thinking about this concept. That's the only reason I posted it.
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09-10-2010 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by droidd
I wasn't going to play it, but the hand got me to thinking about this concept. That's the only reason I posted it.
If there is a chain of limpers its not as bad to limp behind with a marginal hand hoping to see a flop. Open limping is highly exploitable and is going to be very hard for you to show a profit playing multiway pots out of posistion with hands like 59o. On the off chance you hit 2 pair or something like on this flop you are going to be coolered more times than you beat someone for a big pot.

While I'm sure at some point there might be a point to re-evaluate your open limping and building a balanced strategy, you aren't missing anything completely removing it from your game. There are likely other areas of your game that need much more immediate attention then what hands you can open limp with profitably.
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