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11-21-2015 , 08:25 PM

Bartley

enthusiast

Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 72

Did I play this hand optimally or should I raise turn?
I feel like my river raise size is fine as he is calling his strong hands regardless of the price and i want max value against AQ, QT 55, A5s and flushes.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37171220

CO: $8.69 (173.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $5.63 (112.6 bb)
SB: $5.02 (100.4 bb)
BB: $5.48 (109.6 bb)
UTG: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
MP: $5.96 (119.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J

2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.52, 2 folds, CO calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.11) K

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.11) J

(2 players)
CO bets $0.53, Hero calls $0.53

River: ($2.17) A

(2 players)
CO bets $1.04, Hero raises to $4.58 and is all-in, CO calls $3.54

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11-22-2015 , 05:28 AM

sethnoorzad

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Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 357

I think ideally your opponent should have a full house when he bets the river, and most full houses beat you. AK, AJ, A5, KK are all very reasonable holdings for your opponent. You are the one that 3 bet him and you should have a very strong hand, nevertheless he is betting into you.. so aces full is a hand that I think he will have.

If you have a read that he bets with holdings on the lightish side then a raise would be more warranted.

I think it's fine to just call.

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11-22-2015 , 06:01 AM

Kiwi_Shredder

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,336

Villain will most likely 4b/c AK and KK+ pre.

You block AJ so I think it's fine to value shove vs all AQ combos and ATs - he shouldn't have A5s either. However, given your line I would just call otr.

I presume you planned to check down unimproved and hope to win vs 88-TT?

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11-22-2015 , 08:20 AM

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Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 4,479

Nothing we beat is calling the shove

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11-22-2015 , 08:36 AM

Johnny888

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17

Tough spot.
I'd be expecting him to 4bet/call AK/KK/AA.

I like the flop check back.
I think raising the turn isn't a terrible play.

See what hands we can get value from-
KQ,AJ,KJs,55,Axs.

As played, I think raising the river smaller
might be the better play.
It's a bit of a disaster if we fold out any
trip aces/flushes.

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11-22-2015 , 08:40 AM

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Pooh-Bah

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Originally Posted by Johnny888

Raising smaller won't achieve anything. We're either shoving or calling.

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11-22-2015 , 11:36 AM

Quetzalcatalyst

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Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 243

Probably raise the turn, plenty of hands that would call which you're beating. Depending on the villain it's probably just a call on the river. Would definitely be easier to just call if you reraised the turn he called and he bet out again on the river.

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