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5NL - horrible spot with bottom set 5NL - horrible spot with bottom set

06-29-2010 , 08:37 AM
MP is 22/14 over ~80 hands, SB is 45/8 over ~50 hands.

Should I have folded the flop or the turn here? On the flop I couldn't work out what to do, I was either behind better sets or WA of big pairs/flush draws. On the turn I had a brain explosion and spazzed out

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $9.89
BB: $7.69
UTG: $14.85
MP: $14.22
CO: $23.15
Hero (BTN): $12.50

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 4 4

fold, MP raises to $0.20, fold, Hero calls $0.20, SB calls $0.18, fold

Flop: ($0.65, 3 players) 5 4 9
SB bets $1.20, MP raises to $2.55, Hero calls $2.55, SB calls $1.35

Turn: ($8.30, 3 players) J
SB checks, MP bets $4.00, Hero raises to $9.75 and is all-in, fold, MP calls $5.75

River: ($27.80, 2 players) 6
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06-29-2010 , 08:38 AM
3bet jam the flop.
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06-29-2010 , 08:42 AM
you should of spazzed out on the flop
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06-29-2010 , 08:49 AM
You think? I thought it'd be a good idea to keep the SB in?
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06-29-2010 , 09:01 AM
ship flop
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06-29-2010 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Piscivore
You think? I thought it'd be a good idea to keep the SB in?
Slowplaying this flop is really bad in a 3 way pot.
You want their money in the middle asap. If they are drawing, you make them pay bigtime for doing so (odds). If they are not and have made hands like an overpair or 2 pair, you don't want them to get scared on the turn (there are a lot of scare cards to come on the turn). All value is on the flop... so... shove!
Better sets are only a very small part of their range, so if either of them has one it's just
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06-29-2010 , 09:42 AM
Ok, fair enough.

As played on the turn? Ship or fold? Can't help feeling I'm RIO'ing myself by shipping with the third flush card OTB.
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06-29-2010 , 10:48 AM
if you are scared to go broke with a set....you should definitely fold preflop, well as others already mentioned get it in on the flop
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06-29-2010 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Piscivore
Ok, fair enough.

As played on the turn? Ship or fold? Can't help feeling I'm RIO'ing myself by shipping with the third flush card OTB.
Fold, when a loose-passive player bets when a third-flush card hits and he´s been just callind previous streets it´s probably a flush
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06-29-2010 , 11:03 AM
as everyone has said, get it in otf ainec
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06-30-2010 , 01:05 PM
wow that is a weird spot. however, given that MP is extremely loose I think im trying to get it in on this flop. The SB likely has some kind of A9 or K9 combo. His overbet on the flop makes me think he wants to take it down right there. MP feels like a nut flush draw or maybe straight and flush combo draw. He may even be sporting two pair.

As played I have not clue how to act on the turn. you cant just call because its too much of your stack. its a fold/shove decision. I think I would shove here but I also think its wrong to do so. I dont know what he is betting here that we can beat.
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06-30-2010 , 01:09 PM
btw...Why is this a horrible spot? You have some sort of special read on this player?
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