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5NL flopped quads - could I have got more value ? 5NL flopped quads - could I have got more value ?

09-20-2010 , 06:31 PM
Villain is 14/12 cbet 75% fold to cbet 100% (132 hands)

I saw his flop bet as a standard cbet, so I just called to let him catch up on the turn.

Thought he most likely would check behind on turn if he hadn't got much, so I didn't go for a c/r, but may come with me with an overpair, which is why I only bet 1/2 pot.

When he raises turn I wasn't sure whether to call then shove river, shove here, or raise.

Could I have extracted more here ?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Replayer
SB ($5.08)
Hero ($6.30)
UTG ($6.26)
UTG+1 ($4.05)
CO ($2.22)
BTN ($5)

Dealt to Hero 3 3

UTG raises to $0.15, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.15, fold, Hero calls $0.10

FLOP ($0.47) 7 3 3

Hero checks, UTG bets $0.30, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.30

TURN ($1.07) 7 3 3 9

Hero bets $0.55, UTG raises to $2.20, Hero raises to $3.85, UTG folds

Hero shows 3 3

Hero wins $5.11
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09-20-2010 , 06:37 PM
I would crai this flop because it really looks like a bluff, the only hands you are representing are A3,77,33 and maybe 34. I think we get a call from high over cards sometimes and always from overpairs here. Then I probably keep firing on any turn/river
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09-20-2010 , 06:39 PM
Usually, when a UTG bets flop multiway, he has some PP. I think c/r flop would be good because you rep a ton of air and look FOS. Your line is good if you 3b shoved the turn. Next time you flop a set on a dry board against this villain, you can donk turn and just call a raise and call a river shove, because I think you folded out an overpair here.
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09-20-2010 , 06:46 PM
14/12 strong utg range c/r flop...and dont show imo
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09-20-2010 , 06:59 PM
Raising flop is good because you rep pretty much nothing - I might even donk here to induce a "you're full of ****" raise from looser opponents (prob not this 12/14 one though).


AND DON'T SHOW!!!
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09-21-2010 , 03:19 PM
Thanks.

I think with this particular villain calling turn, shoving river may have extracted more, but maybe CRAI usually against someone more aggro.

I didn't actually show, HEM replayer gave out the HH like that. I've noticed this a couple of times now, not sure if the latest upgrade has changed something ?
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09-21-2010 , 03:39 PM
villain dependent, anyway it's always hard to extract when holding quads
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