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5NL Few hands, cant deal with loose players 5NL Few hands, cant deal with loose players

04-04-2010 , 07:05 PM
I can do ok vs your regs etc, but put a few loose players on my table, where most people here will be licking there lips. I get arseholed.

Hand 1. 80/20 over 50ish hands calls, min bets, etc

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (MP) ($4.93)
Button ($3.63)
SB ($4.95)
BB ($4.76)
UTG ($7.01)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K, 9
1 fold, Hero bets $0.15, Button calls $0.15, 1 fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.47) 10, 10, 2 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: ($0.47) Q (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.34, Button calls $0.34, 1 fold

River: ($1.15) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.65, Button raises to $3.14 (All-In), Hero ?


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Hand 2: 50/0 only 15 hands, limps and calls raises after a limp

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (4 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($3.60)
SB ($5.31)
Hero (BB) ($4.95)
UTG ($7.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A
Hero bets $0.15, 1 fold, Button calls $0.13, SB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45) 5, 4, K (3 players)
Button bets $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, Button calls $0.15

Turn: ($0.85) Q (2 players)
Button checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.85) 10 (2 players)
Button bets $1, Hero ?

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Hands 3: 40/3 15 hands same as above

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($1.71)
UTG ($5.36)
MP ($4.09)
CO ($4.26)
Hero (Button) ($5)
SB ($2.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, Q
2 folds, CO calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.20, 2 folds, CO calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.47) J, 7, 5 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.30, CO calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.07) 7 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.07) 6 (2 players)
CO bets $0.75, Hero ?

Last night, was hitting the cards, getting AA, KK, AK. Getting cracked by 62o, T6o.... luckly 72 didnt turn me over!

After a few hands like the above, i turn into weak passive pile of trash....
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04-04-2010 , 07:27 PM
I don't think we can fold hand 1, there is a ton of stuff that we beat that they get it in with. In hand 2 I'm raising the flop bigger (at least to 40c) and I'm just going with it after that and trying to get the money in since he is shortstacked. In hand 3 I'm betting 2/3 pot on the turn and and check/calling the river to let him bet his draws.
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04-04-2010 , 07:37 PM
Please post 1 hand per thread. Makes it much easier to comment.

Hand 1
I cbet the flop. You should have FE (middle pairs etc.) and enough equity to make this a +EV Cbet. As played I am a little lost on the river. But i think you have to call. Enough trips, lower flushes and bluffs in villains range here.

Hand 2
I agree with NoMeansNo. Raise flop bigger. CBet turn. Try to get it in. If BTN had 100BB I might b/f turn.

Hand 3
I would b/f turn and c/c river.
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04-04-2010 , 08:52 PM
Hand 1: bet flop, as played call river.
Hand 2: raise to at least pot on flop, bet turn. as played fold the river.
Hand 3: bet turn, as played call river.
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04-04-2010 , 09:40 PM
General advice vs 80/20 types since other people already covered the hands:

Since they're loose, they can call anything. Never bluff these guys, always valuebet your made hands even if it looks kind of thin (like your second hand), bet assuming you're ahead with TPTK until they start raising.

Try to isolate with hands that have good top pair value such as KQ rather than 56s since in general you're going to win a lot of small-medium pots when they call down and miss their draws or with second pair etc, and strength from sc's and such comes from fold equity which you don't have against this type of player.
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04-04-2010 , 09:55 PM
Hand1 Snap
Hand2 raise more on the flop, bet turn, and as played snap river as our hand is so ridiculously under-repped
Hand3 once again bet turn, so many draws u can charge value from, and as played call river
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04-05-2010 , 01:11 AM
If you have ANY doubt about INSTACALLING hand 1, don´t play KXs and SCs dude...
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