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5NL - Discipline to fold? 5NL - Discipline to fold?

09-28-2010 , 04:03 PM
What do you guys think about this hand? I never have the discipline to fold something like this, but I should.... right? Fold it at the turn or river?

No idea about his playingstyle, just a couple of hands.



Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $6.16
BB: $6.17

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 9 Q
Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32) Q 6 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.72) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.60

River: ($2.72) Q (2 players)
BB bets $4.82 all in, Hero calls $3.65 all in

Final Pot: $10.02
Hero shows 9 Q (three of a kind, Queens)
BB shows 2 2 (a full house, Deuces full of Queens)
BB wins $9.53
(Rake: $0.49)
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09-28-2010 , 04:06 PM
you should have folded on his raise on the turn, you only had top pair, so the only hands he is going ot raise ou with are top pair with better kickers or a set, or a flush draw or a stonecold bluff.

I also don't see why you raise this hand preflop anyway
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09-28-2010 , 04:07 PM
yes fold turn

i think its called beluga therom where getting c/red on turn, one pair hands are no good
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09-28-2010 , 04:08 PM
You've gotta insta fold the turn. Most unknowns will be loose passive and if they make that kind of reraise you have to fold hands as strong as top pair top kicker in micro stakes.
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09-28-2010 , 04:10 PM
andrey-man: Three handed, on the button this is a PF raise hand I would think. Should have folded on the turn indeed.
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09-28-2010 , 04:15 PM
yeah I agree preflop this raise is definitely reasonable although it is at the very lower end of most ranges.
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09-28-2010 , 04:39 PM
turn raise with your hand is almost always a fold until you have solid reads that he loves to bluff this a lot or do it very thinly with TP type hands. If he was on a solid draw, pretty sure he's ch raising your flop bet unless he has 5-3 here which is hardly ever unless he's super fishy. I don't really like his c/c c/r on a drawy board, he could basically be giving you a free card to the flush draw, and I doubt he's folding to a reasonable bet with his set if you hit.

Just take note that he'll give you free cards if you want to take them and own him on the river when you do draw out on him. Villains like this probably have a checking range much stronger than their betting range.
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09-28-2010 , 05:18 PM
more discplined if it did happen ott
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09-28-2010 , 05:38 PM
if you dont fold turn you have to fold river. your relative hand stregnth agaisnt a river over bet shove is really bad with Q9 .
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