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01-03-2018 , 08:09 PM

shynepo3

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 902

should i give up on the river, or fire? WTSD is 2/3.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 125.6 BB (VPIP: 8.62, PFR: 8.62, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 58)
BB: 298.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG: 206.4 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
MP: 188.4 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
CO: 98.2 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 19)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 8.8 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 5.8 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) 3

CO checks, Hero bets 7.6 BB, CO calls 7.6 BB

Turn: (34.2 BB, 2 players) 9

CO checks, Hero bets 19.6 BB, CO calls 19.6 BB

River: (73.4 BB, 2 players) A

CO checks,

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01-04-2018 , 08:56 AM

ToiletBowler

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Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 1,144

3 hands is too small of a sample.

I think a bet is good with hands that have a heart in them. Without a heart Im not so sure but it can only be marginally -EV

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01-04-2018 , 03:36 PM

shynepo3

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 902

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Originally Posted by ToiletBowler

3 hands is too small of a sample.

I think a bet is good with hands that have a heart in them. Without a heart Im not so sure but it can only be marginally -EV

i incl the WTSD, but 3 hands is small. Sounds good tho, firing with a heart and giving up without.

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01-04-2018 , 04:06 PM

ToiletBowler

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Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 1,144

The tricky thing is that you (well most people) won't have many hands OTR that have a heart and have no SDV - and if you do then you're probably 3bet bluffing a lot more combos than your value hands can protect.

At some point you may just have to take hands without a heart and bluff them, or else you won't have any bluffs (which can be good or bad).

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01-04-2018 , 07:22 PM

Haizemberg93

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Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 7,592

Pre is standard?
Probably just bet.We cant have any other bluffs.

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01-05-2018 , 05:38 AM

JamesBJames

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,791

WTSD over 3 hands isn't worth much of anything IMO.

I think I'm shoving river here. Having a heart as a blocker would be preferable but I don't 3-bet QJo or KJo in this spot, and I'm not sure how many KQo combos I actually get to the river with. Plus, if we're shoving AA, TT, 99 (?), and the ~6-8 flushes we have for value, then need more bluffs than just KQo with a heart anyway.

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