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03-25-2012 , 08:31 PM
This was villain's first hand at the table so my stats hadn't loaded. However, I have him marked as a "bad lag". I'll put his stats in a spoiler so you don't have to look at them if you don't want to.

Spoiler:

34/31 (36 hands)
3bet% = 28.6 (14 hands)
3bet steal% = 60 (5 hands)
Agg = Inf Afq = 64 (11 samples)


Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12318492

Hero (BTN): $5.07 (101.4 bb)
SB: $5.27 (105.4 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG: $6.36 (127.2 bb)
MP: $7.52 (150.4 bb)
CO: $5.14 (102.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB folds, BB raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.20, BB calls $0.70

I didn't give his 3bet much credit due to the note I have on him. As such I 4bet for value, if he had shoved I would have snap called. Does anyone prefer shoving over his 3bet or would this just force out everything that I beat?

Flop: ($2.42) 3 2 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

The flop completely missed my range so I thought it was best to check behind and try and spike an A or a K. Should I cbet here and if so why?

Looking at it now I'm turning my hand face up as unimproved overs.

Turn: ($2.42) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $1.74, Hero folds

At this point I have absolutely nothing so decided to let it go.

Comments on all streets welcome. Thanks in advance for any responses.
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03-25-2012 , 10:27 PM
pre is fine and good. Postflop I would prob play it the same if he's 'bad lag' like you say then he can c/shuv a lot which is obv bad.
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03-25-2012 , 10:56 PM
I dont mind a small cbet here just to fold out his AQ/AJ. It will let you see the river cheaply aswell. Cbets in 4bet pots dont have to be big, can make it like $1.

Just seen your short stacked so might just check/fold turn unimproved. Think a bet might mean you have to call a shove. More importantly, always buy in full. You should know by now after 1000+ posts on here that playing short stacked is bad/a big leak in your game. A leak that is very easy to fix aswell.
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03-25-2012 , 11:01 PM
Fold to cbet stat would be nice but checking here is fine. Also I wouldn't snap off 4bet shoves with AK with such small sample and vague notes. I prefer flatting pre.
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03-26-2012 , 12:01 AM
Actually ignore me thought it was 10NL. My bad.
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03-26-2012 , 08:17 AM
b/c $1 if you think hes really spazzy
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03-26-2012 , 12:14 PM
I think c bet/folding the flop is better or calling if you think he is capable of shoving 2 overs. You 4 bet and have overpairs in your range and can plausibly fold out some weak pairs depending on what he is 3 bet/calling with. Or he could call the flop and check down to the river. You have position having c bet you will get to see what he does first on the turn and fold if he leads out or check behind for a cheap river if he checks.
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03-26-2012 , 12:46 PM
Looks wp to me. Villains fold to cbet here is close to 0%. No need to waste money by b/f imo, take a free card. If he has any folds in him (unlikely) - he will fold his complete air that we beat.
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03-26-2012 , 01:35 PM
I wooud just flat pre i think his 4 bet callling range is more narrow that his 3be range and if we 4b he is folding a lot of his A and K that he is due to stats 3b pre. I think that hit a pair we can get a 3 streets of value. If we čb pre he is folding a lot of his range and calling with like TT,JJ,QQ, AK, AQ . On that kind of flop we can just give it up hope that he will not bet his AK, AQ and get cheply to showdown. In conclusion we get more by calling pre IMO
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03-26-2012 , 02:53 PM
I think you can flat pre. Almost nobody at these stakes will 5bet bluff so if you get it in you will be beat.
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03-26-2012 , 11:11 PM
Thanks guys. I'm thinking that calling the 3bet is probably better now, particularly as I don't have much of a read on villain. Need to think about it a bit more though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bruinddh
Also I wouldn't snap off 4bet shoves with AK with such small sample and vague notes. I prefer flatting pre.
I'm usually happy to get AK all in BTN Vs BB unless the 3bettor is on the nitty side (VPIP less than 20).

Is this a leak?
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03-27-2012 , 07:17 AM
doesnt this guy 3bet all the time? 4bet, and 4bet bigger, in his mind he is potcommited here and will call. if u have AK and villain folds pre, it is a good thing, no matter what he has, u will never be a huge favourite.
so, flop play. i would check too, but with the plan to call the turn unimproved. we dont get him to fold a pair, but we are still way ahead of his range here.
and last point, most important: this is NL5! recreational player dont have thought processes here! following happened imo: u raised button, he threebet light, u 4bet small, he, in his mind, had to call. flop is raggy, u check. he thinks "aha, weakness, lets attack!". which he does with entire range on turn.
next time cbet/fold or, when check, call turn, call river, since he will be bluffing there an awful lot.
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03-27-2012 , 07:37 AM
You have him tagged as a bad lag ffs such an easy 4b/c pre. He probs 3b/5b aq,jjs if you're right about him
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