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5NL: 3 barrel bluff in 3 bet pot bvb. 5NL: 3 barrel bluff in 3 bet pot bvb.

01-07-2016 , 10:25 AM
Villain is unknown which makes plays like these prob unnecessary . Since I did anyway how about my pre/post flop play in general?
If this is bad readless what if we were up against a typical TAG at these stakes?

Pre: Since most of them open any Ax bvb I tend to 3bet the ones with the lower kickers. Should this be a flat instead? Which Ax (suited/offsuit) are you flatting/3betting bvb?

Post: Being in a 3bet pot, do you play any streets differently? His range by the R (that x/c F&T) will have a hard time calling since I rep super strong. I prob rely on him being able to fold KQ at this point. I block AK (prob 4betting pre, but still possible), fold out some Jx/weak Kx that are still around and even some better draws (AQdd,...).


PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 412.6 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 14.06, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)
SB: 176.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (BB): 103.8 BB
UTG: 18.6 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 169.6 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: 129.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 2 A

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) K 5 J
SB checks, Hero bets 8.8 BB, SB calls 8.8 BB

Turn: (35.6 BB, 2 players) 6
SB checks, Hero bets 21.8 BB, SB calls 21.8 BB

River: (79.2 BB, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero bets 64.2 BB and is all-in

Last edited by donkeyshot; 01-07-2016 at 10:32 AM.
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01-07-2016 , 10:37 AM
I'd flat pre. As played X back turn, whatever C OTF will C OTT. Even if I had Qs2s i'd X back turn and hope to still have showdown value lol
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01-07-2016 , 11:12 AM
As played pre and otf, I would barrel through on this run out. You can blow him off KT, Jx, random 5xdd/6xdd and Axdd otr. You have zero sdv imo.

It's fine to check down AQ in this spot vs passive and/or honest villains.
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01-07-2016 , 12:54 PM
Anyone who thinks he can barrel a 5NL player off of TP doesn't play 5NL.

Easy flat PF.
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01-07-2016 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue-chip-tuna
As played X back turn, whatever C OTF will C OTT. Even if I had Qs2s i'd X back turn and hope to still have showdown value lol
Imo, we're better off checking the F straight away if we're not going to barrel this T. 1&done seems kinda bad on this board?
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01-07-2016 , 01:10 PM
I actually feel this line is ok vs a reg (we have some equity with BDFD otf & pick up more ott whilst also not blocking diamonds), but:

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Originally Posted by donkeyshot
Villain is unknown
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Originally Posted by donkeyshot
I prob rely on him being able to fold KQ at this point.
I don't see how we can rely on him to fold anything when he could be anything from a solid reg to a drooling donkey. Prefer this when we have at least some info on villain personally.
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01-07-2016 , 01:13 PM
Agree, prob not that great vs unknowns at 5NL overall.
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01-07-2016 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Theguyonyourleft
I actually feel this line is ok vs a reg (we have some equity with BDFD otf & pick up more ott whilst also not blocking diamonds), but:
You play 5NL, right? What would you do w/ KQ vs unknown here?
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01-07-2016 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by donkeyshot
You play 5NL, right? What would you do w/ KQ vs unknown here?
You mean if I was in villain's shoes vs hero's 3bet & 3 barrels? With KQ we are only beating a bluff as even KJ got there.

My decision would of course depend on my opponent & any reads I had but river would be a tough decision with KQ, which is why I think the line may be ok if we knew anything about our opponent. This is rarely a bluff at 5NL which regs know which is why they may fold to the river bet.
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