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5L zoom overpair on flop 5L zoom overpair on flop

11-25-2013 , 03:06 AM
[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #21074921

BTN: $0.94 (18.8 bb)
SB: $1.65 (33 bb)
BB: $5.95 (119 bb)
UTG: $5.40 (108 bb)
Hero (MP): $6.43 (128.6 bb)
CO: $5.38 (107.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q Q
UTG raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.97) 8 T 4 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.66, UTG raises to $2.90
hero:???????

no reads on villian as first hand that i have tracked on him. The fact that he left 40% of his stack behind is kinda what scared me off the hand. thoughts??
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11-25-2013 , 04:39 AM
I would fold with no reads, set big possibility here I think
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11-25-2013 , 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by KrakenUO
I would fold with no reads, set big possibility here I think
How big of a possibility?


This is way too nitty. You need to assess him with a range.

Then base your decision on his range, not a specific hand.

QJ diamonds is just as likely as a set of Tens.
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11-25-2013 , 05:29 AM
Fold > shove > call.

Expecting pocket pairs more often than draws, given b/c from UTG.
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11-25-2013 , 03:05 PM
Shiiipp iiiit
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11-25-2013 , 03:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by paratrooper99
How big of a possibility?


This is way too nitty. You need to assess him with a range.

Then base your decision on his range, not a specific hand.

QJ diamonds is just as likely as a set of Tens.
Hero has the Q diamonds.
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11-25-2013 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Deeepz
Shiiipp iiiit
Because?
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11-25-2013 , 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by paratrooper99
How big of a possibility?


This is way too nitty. You need to assess him with a range.

Then base your decision on his range, not a specific hand.

QJ diamonds is just as likely as a set of Tens.
seeing as we have the Qd then no its not that likely. However im not folding here.
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11-25-2013 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KP24
Because?
Wet board. Overpair.3b pot. He has only a few combos that beat us. Some worse combos for value. Lolpotodds

Nuff said?
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11-25-2013 , 06:39 PM
3b to .60 pre and donking full pot otf would help preventing that scary 40% left of his stack I guess.
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11-26-2013 , 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Woji
3b to .60 pre and donking full pot otf would help preventing that scary 40% left of his stack I guess.
Agree that we maybe can go bigger preeflop!

but betting full pot here is dumb.. Betting 60% on this board and he will call ligther.. and raise ligther.

We loose to a few combos.. it is a 3bet pot.. and 5NL:.

get it in.. Because if you fold your could just as easy 3bet XX and cbet/fold here.. this means you are bluffing with QQ
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11-26-2013 , 06:58 AM
GII, but a close one
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11-26-2013 , 07:27 AM
As has been said before, pocket pairs are pretty common here. Having said that, many a villian will pull something like this off with an over they flatted pre. With that in mind the only hand you are beating here is JJ. Even if we do include big combo draws you are flipping with them at best, i would think AKs here is far more likely than a 9Js or 97s. Give him a range of 3 combos of sets, 2 over pairs that beat yours, one over pair which you dominate and something like AKs, plus the ther QQ, it looks like you have 30% equity against that 'range'. Pretty standard fold imo. I would ship sets, maybe AA with the heart in it, and big combo draws when pot odds are favourable.
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11-27-2013 , 12:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deeepz
Shiiipp iiiit
One time...
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11-27-2013 , 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KP24
One time...
Huh?
Edit. Got it

Last edited by Deeepz; 11-27-2013 at 01:05 PM.
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