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07-01-2010 , 03:21 PM

_MAGiC_

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 860

5th hand of the match
Villain is reg, -1% loser on sharkscope
this is his 2nd 3Bet out of 5hands

Poker Stars $55.00+$2.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN/SB): t1240 M = 41.33
BB: t1760 M = 58.67

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with T

Hero raises to t60, BB raises to t160, Hero calls t100

Flop: (t320) 4

(2 players)
BB bets t200, Hero calls t200

Turn: (t720) T

(2 players)
BB bets t500

I think flop call is fine, plan was to bet turn if he shut down... raising flop is kinda bad imo.

But turn is puzzling, dunno what to do here, SH1P or FOLD?, i mean theres like 84,000 draws on that board and i have a decent hand,,, seems kinda hard to get rid of it,,, since he seems pretty aggro.

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07-01-2010 , 04:00 PM

KarlizL

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,624

I don't like floating when a fish makes such a small 3bet. He won't fold overpairs anyway.

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07-01-2010 , 05:26 PM

_MAGiC_

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Originally Posted by KarlizL

I don't like floating when a fish makes such a small 3bet. He won't fold overpairs anyway.

obv i have no FE here,,, im asking whether or not get it in or not on that turn

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07-01-2010 , 05:30 PM

quiquiriqui

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,916

i shove or fold the flop

if u floated bc u think he cbets that wide after 3betting i think u shld call the turn

AND THEN LOSE THE PRIMO ST BET BWAHAHA

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07-01-2010 , 05:47 PM

I_LI_Jl

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 530

Hate the flop call. You don't want to be calling off 1/5 of your stack with a gutshot, 2 overs that might not be good, and no reads.

Don't like shoving with no real read as to how agressive villain is either(although probably better than flatting), so IMO snap fold flop here.

As played, jam the turn.

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07-01-2010 , 05:50 PM

Zuran

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,106

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Originally Posted by KarlizL

I don't like floating when a fish makes such a small 3bet. He won't fold overpairs anyway.

good odds and position with a hand that flops well. std call.

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07-01-2010 , 10:27 PM

evanbro

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Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 23

I would fold to that turn bet since you have no real reads that he is doing this with a draw. You could be ahead but there is no reason to believe you are with the way he has played his hand.

I would have called the 3bet pre but folded to the flop bet.

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07-01-2010 , 10:46 PM

corbishleym

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 309

Fold flop

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07-01-2010 , 11:04 PM

Barewire

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jam flop!

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07-02-2010 , 12:38 AM

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magnanimity

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Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 553

I'd raise the flop smallish, 250, 280. I figure if he calls there's tons of turn cards we like, if a brick hits he'll most likely check the turn giving us a chance to draw out, and we can barrel if the right card hits, if he jams over Ez fold. We aren't really getting the odds to flat, but you should have some FE here, he's probably on air, if he's got a pair he's got to be worried about the strength we've shown so far.

EDIT: I'd shove turn

EDIT AGAIN:.... about the barreling ... can't really do that since any overs are potentially his outs, but I still think its a good move to raise the flop and will give us two streets to draw out often if he calls

Last edited by magnanimity; 07-02-2010 at 12:41 AM. Reason: more coherent that way :)

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07-02-2010 , 12:43 AM

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Arsenal Gunners

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 640

pre is fine, but flop call is really, really, really bad. jam or fold are your only options. a jam isn't horrible but I'd prefer to do it with at least a backdoor spade draw

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07-02-2010 , 02:10 AM

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BWoCk

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Preflop call is fine, but I would definitely fold the flop. As played, you're in a tricky spot on the turn because he could easily have aces, kings, or queens after that baby raise pre-flop. Did he preflop 3 bet you at all earlier in the match? If so, was it the same size or larger? If that's his standard 3 bet size then I'd shove on the turn.

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07-02-2010 , 03:31 AM

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_MAGiC_

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Originally Posted by BWoCk

yea thats his 2nd 3B in 5 hands, same sizing

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07-02-2010 , 06:37 AM

#14

miniwiz

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,971

Fold flop.I dislike shoving readless.

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07-02-2010 , 11:57 AM

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ImmortalTechnique

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,362

If I have some laser reads I shove/float otherwise I fold, turn will miss us alot imo (or never help us at all, its a 3b pot) and we're facing at least one more good sized bet.

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