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55 in 3b pot vs reg - NL30 55 in 3b pot vs reg - NL30

12-17-2012 , 03:08 PM
V plays 19/12 with 3.1% 3b over 2.5k hands.

Read: V opens from UTG and I flat with KK on the button. He cbets on a low flop and I raise to set the stack for a shove on the river as he likely has an overpair. He folds and said he had QQ and folded because I'm usually passive post. +1 to V for giving free info.

    Boss, $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

    MP: $32.64 (108.8 bb)
    CO: $32.58 (108.6 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $37.51 (125 bb)
    SB: $30.87 (102.9 bb)
    BB: $59 (196.7 bb)
    UTG: $56.05 (186.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 5
    3 folds, Hero raises to $0.86, SB raises to $2.88, BB folds, Hero calls $2.02

    Flop: ($6.06) 3 2 4 (2 players)
    SB bets $4.20, Hero?

    Spoiler:
    Results: $6.06 pot ($0.32 rake)
    Final Board: 3 2 4
    Hero mucked 5 5 and lost (-$2.88 net)
    SB mucked and won $5.74 ($2.86 net)



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    Is this a good spot to raise/gii on the flop? thanks.
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    12-17-2012 , 03:24 PM
    I'd raise and get it in because you always have decent equity and he can fold better hands. Also facing a bet on all turn cards except A or 6 is a difficult situation.
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    12-17-2012 , 05:28 PM
    Not a good situation to call preflop for exactly the reasons that you face above.
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    12-17-2012 , 05:32 PM
    Seems a pretty standard fold pre to me. otf I guess get it in as you almost always have decent equity
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    12-17-2012 , 05:42 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stackmemaybe
    Read: V opens from UTG and I flat with KK on the button.
    What are you doing flatting KK on the button calling 3bets with 55.
    Honestly both of these plays are absolutely atrocious.
    The KK play is ok if blinds will squeeze a ridiculously high% I guess.

    Even if he has AA and you get his stack here every single time if you hit a set of 5 you will still loose money in the long run.
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    12-17-2012 , 05:51 PM
    fold pre, raise flop

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rebuild
    Even if he has AA and you get his stack here every single time if you hit a set of 5 you will still loose money in the long run.
    incorrect
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    12-17-2012 , 05:51 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stackmemaybe
    +1 to V for giving false info.
    fyp
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    12-17-2012 , 05:51 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rebuild
    Even if he has AA and you get his stack here every single time if you hit a set of 5 you will still loose money in the long run.
    Nah if you know for sure villain has AA, setmining has to be +EV
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    12-17-2012 , 06:06 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ForeverLearning
    Nah if you know for sure villain has AA, setmining has to be +EV
    It is by a decent amount but vs a range of QQ+ (and not AK) I'm willing to bet it isn't due to overcards otf vs QQ/KK.
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    12-17-2012 , 06:12 PM
    Ok yeah we are calling around 2bucks so we are getting 1:15 I guess if he has aces all the time the odds are "okish". Thing is we still have to discount set over sets and straights and flushes and whatnot. I think and I m not 100% sure about it we need 1:11 if we are 1000% right, 1:7 to hit a set.
    Even with 1:15 and being sure that he has JJ-AA,AK here I m pretty sure the call is -ev. Been a while since I did the exact math on all those things I should probably do that again one day :P
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    12-17-2012 , 06:13 PM
    With 3bet% of 3.1 and BTN vs SB where ppl 3bet alot its definitely not profitable
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    12-17-2012 , 06:23 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nirwanda
    fyp
    Lol yeah I should be carefull with that info.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dalonelybaptist
    With 3bet% of 3.1 and BTN vs SB where ppl 3bet alot its definitely not profitable
    Your right, his range could contain bluffs in this spot but not that often. We have 15:1 IP to setmine which seems good to me vs his 3% range. But I might fold this next time because of our passive dynamic which reduces implied odds.
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    12-17-2012 , 06:37 PM
    1:15 is never enough even for 3% just think about the 3% even AQs is in there. You can never call here profitable even vs the sickest nit ever :P
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