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04-04-2014 , 08:44 AM
Villain seems like a recreational, is onetabling:

Pre + Flop seems standard
Turn is pretty disgusting, we dont want him to draw to his flushes/straights (we block most of these with our K) but his range consist a lot of jacks.
Think our options are:
B/F (like halfpot at max)
X/C
or X/C?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 60.2 BB (VPIP: 19.10, PFR: 3.37, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 90)
SB: 68.58 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 91.06 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
MP: 149.64 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
CO: 124.12 BB (VPIP: 22.70, PFR: 14.91, 3Bet Preflop: 5.33, Hands: 610)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 7 BB, MP calls 5 BB

Flop: (14.5 BB, 2 players) T 6 J
Hero bets 10 BB, MP calls 10 BB

Turn: (34.5 BB, 2 players) J
Hero is confused and would like to hear others,
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04-04-2014 , 08:47 AM
3bet bigger vs a recreational and we can definitely valuebet turn imo
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04-04-2014 , 08:49 AM
Dafaq bro, just bet until signaled otherwise, this ain't rocket science
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04-04-2014 , 10:19 AM
It's an easy bet. Why can't you have a draw here? You block JK.

TJ is blocked, JQo/TJo is unlikely to call PF... Also guy who min-raises PF is more likely to be weak.
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04-04-2014 , 11:32 AM
think you can still bet turn, rec is calling with SD and FD and might even call down with worse pairs.

if he raises here his range is pretty polarized, either having Jx or complete air, prob b/f this turn though

would be better if we had more hands vs him
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04-04-2014 , 02:20 PM
I prolly make a bet big enough to rep preparing a shove, and see how he reacts.

Too many combos in his range to x behind. I guess it's a b/f vs this unknown, u can't automatically presume he's got the balls to x/r semibluff if he does so.

Fire here and fold to any further action

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04-04-2014 , 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
I prolly make a bet big enough to rep preparing a shove, and see how he reacts.

Too many combos in his range to x behind. I guess it's a b/f vs this unknown, u can't automatically presume he's got the balls to x/r semibluff if he does so.

Fire here and fold to any further action

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Or... I don't know. Any thoughts on an alternative, checking back here with the intention to make hero calls or extract thin value otr?

If I expect him to donk bluff many river cards, am I overestimating an unknown's bluffing tendencies?

All in all an interesting spot imo..

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04-04-2014 , 02:24 PM
We are OOP tolis!
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04-04-2014 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ZXZ
We are OOP tolis!
Pffff... completely misread the hand... sry bro.

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04-04-2014 , 02:25 PM
bet bet bet
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04-04-2014 , 02:26 PM
Defo bigger 3b pre

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04-04-2014 , 03:46 PM
Vs fish betbetbet
Vs reg x flop
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