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50NL, What kinda weird line is this??? 50NL, What kinda weird line is this???

09-29-2009 , 04:17 PM
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $52.60
SB: $82.40
Hero (BB): $51.45
UTG: $51.25
UTG+1: $68.85
MP1: $61.75
MP2: $56.25
CO: $52.30

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with Q A
4 folds, CO raises to $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1.75, Hero raises to $11, 1 fold, SB raises to $82.40 all in, 1 fold

Final Pot: $24.00
SB wins $24.00

Original raiser is 12/10/2 with 100 fold to 3bet
Stats on villain are 11/10/3 with 90 fold to 3bet

So I tried to squeeze here and it failed, however Villain's line left me baffled and wondering what's going on, did he just slowplay AA to attempt to trap the original raiser post-flop?? or did he realize that I was squeezing and made a move on me? I dont get why a player with such nitty stats would just flat call the original raise who also happens to be a tight player and then reshove to a squeeze without a monster like AA,KK, but at the same time I dont know why he would give the original raiser a chance to outdraw him on the flop, usually tight players would try to protect their pocket pairs instead of making high variance plays like that.

Either way I am confused, thoughts?
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09-29-2009 , 04:38 PM
I think he's saying you're FOS.

I would expect AA/KK to 4b to $30, not ship.
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09-29-2009 , 05:00 PM
last night i had a quite similar hand, and villian had AQo.
i think i call here (i expect AA,KK,AK to 3bet and not slowplay oop) and hope to see something like AJ, but guess it will be a medium pair against we are flipping, what is ok with the money already in.
dont know if this is a good range here, but even so i get even odds (i would almost rule out AA, QQ and AK)

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,089,025,344 games 0.985 secs 1,105,609,486 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.611% 36.04% 02.57% 392482572 28005732.00 { AQo }
Hand 1: 61.389% 58.82% 02.57% 640531308 28005732.00 { AA, QQ-77, AJs+, AKo }
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09-29-2009 , 05:03 PM
I had a reg do this to me, I snapped called with KJ and was good against his J8s
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09-29-2009 , 05:27 PM
Ok lets imagine I am facing something like 77-JJ (which is the only thing I can put the villain on), do I have enough equity to make this call?
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09-29-2009 , 05:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaM StarK
Ok lets imagine I am facing something like 77-JJ (which is the only thing I can put the villain on), do I have enough equity to make this call?
Yes:

ext results appended to pokerstove.txt

369,857,664 games 0.047 secs 7,869,312,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.581% 43.39% 00.19% 160465752 720612.00 { AQo }
Hand 1: 56.419% 56.22% 00.19% 207950688 720612.00 { JJ-99 }
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09-29-2009 , 05:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SammyG-SD
Yes:

ext results appended to pokerstove.txt

369,857,664 games 0.047 secs 7,869,312,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.581% 43.39% 00.19% 160465752 720612.00 { AQo }
Hand 1: 56.419% 56.22% 00.19% 207950688 720612.00 { JJ-99 }
Dead money, FTW.
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09-29-2009 , 06:08 PM
So here is my main question.

Am I supposed/forced to be calling in this spot even if I know for sure that his range range is 77-JJ? What if there's any doubts in my mind that this could be a trap?

The reason why I ask is because I've been going through a downswing lately and I wasn't sure if I wanted to take a chance here and flip against a 'possible underpair', but I really want to know if it's a chance I should be taking since I was the one who brought the situation upon me. Against a 30/20 I would be snap calling all day everyday but against a player with this stats I felt like I could possibly be getting trapped.

Anyways main question is: Is this a forced call? or is it okay to fold in this spot if someone doesn't want to be flipping?
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09-29-2009 , 06:51 PM
You have an ace, how bad of shape can you be in?
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09-29-2009 , 07:05 PM
Unless the villain has AA or AK you are ahead because it is pokerstars and you have Ax
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09-29-2009 , 10:20 PM
i had AK yesterday in this position, guess what i said the same thing hes gonna 3bet my raise and not to just shove w/ AA KK. Well i called he showed AA

fml
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