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06-08-2008 , 12:09 PM
Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $49.80
SB: $59.45
Hero (BB): $60.35
UTG: $49.25
MP: $24.25
CO: $49.95

Pre-Flop: T T dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG raises to $2, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 8 4 T (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($4.25) 3 (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $4, Hero calls $4

River: ($12.25) Q (2 Players)
Hero bets $9

Villain is 7/7/2 over 60ish hands, a timid ubernit, so I was pretty much playing for set value only. I checked because I was hoping to snap off a c-bet from AK/AQ. His checking behind threw me a little. I thought, if he's checking behind with overcards, there's no point in me leading the turn because he's always going to fold. So I checked the turn, hoping he'd improve on the river. Thoughts?



Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $105.30
CO: $55.75
BTN: $84.80
Hero (SB): $49.50
BB: $55.70

Pre-Flop: T T dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, CO raises to $2, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) 2 6 5 (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.30, Hero calls $3.30

Turn: ($11.10) 8 (2 Players)
Hero bets $6, CO calls $6

River: ($23.10) 3 (2 Players)
Hero bets $7

Villain is 18/12/2 over 141 hands. I normally 3-bet pre, but I threw in a call for variety. Do you lead or checkraise the flop, rather than c/c? Is that an appropriate spot for the blocking bet on the river?
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06-08-2008 , 12:16 PM
its not a blocking bet on the river, its a value bet, but u made it so small it looks weak as hell

u played this really passively , i woulda raised preflop, i woulda raised the flop, etc
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06-08-2008 , 12:58 PM
#1 - Checking the flop to pick off a cbet is fine, but let's start getting some money in the middle on the turn - either by a lead or c/r. If Villain folds, you probably weren't going to make much money anyways. A 7/7/2 is going to be hard to extract tons of value from. You may have to be content with a smaller pot than you'd like here.

#2 - IMO you really need to b/c or c/r the flop - I prefer b/c. Too many draws out there and if opponent isn't drawing, tons of cooler cards can come on the turn to kill the action. I think you're good on the river here always. Bet $15ish. Fold if raised.
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06-08-2008 , 03:04 PM
Hand 1:
Pre flop: I think you should be 3-betting this all day long - especially since you're out of position.

Flop: I think you should be leading out for 3/4 pot... although I suppose checking is fine given the fairly dry board. Then again, check-calling looks kinda suspicious to the villain and he'd be putting you on some kind of a draw or smallish pocket pair.

Turn: Given his check behind and the fact that he's such a tight player, leading with any two cards here should be fine. If he folds, then it's fine - you weren't going to make a lot of money out of this hand anyways. At the same time, a check by you would let his possible A-high of hearts combination have a chance of getting to a flush to easily. However, he now leads out and is very likely scared of you making a flush.. suggesting that he may have been slowplaying AA-QQ.

River: Fine.


Hand 2:
Pre flop: Again, you should be 3-betting this all the time, especially since you're out of position. What are you going to do if the flop brings an overcard?

Flop: I think you should be check-raising this drawy board putting his c-bet to the test. I don't think A-high would be continuing very much after this if you check-raised.

Turn: Fine, possibly make your bet a tiny bit bigger ($9ish).

River: I'd be making my bet here a little bit bigger as well - somewhere around the $12-$16 mark. He can only have a straight if he played A4, 44 or 79, but I doubt he'd be playing these hands given his stats.
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06-08-2008 , 03:12 PM
Why the hell would we 3bet TT to a 7/7/2 UTG raiser when all he continues with is hands that have us beat and hands that we flip with (AK). I would Flat JJ here and QQ probably aswell and AK

I like leading turn in Hand 1 to get money in the pot just because c/r looks so strong. Also River is really transparent.

Hand 2:
3 bet pre for value.
Turn i would lead for more like 9 and river I lead for 17into23
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06-08-2008 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorvacofin
Villain is 7/7/2 over 60ish hands
Hardly a wide enough sample to be assuming that he only continues with hands that have us beat.

Flatting pre flop just seems so passive to me and makes it a lot easier for him to pick up the pot if he misses his hand but the board brings overcards to Heroes TT.

I'm still 3-betting but if he 4-bets, I fold. Also, a lot more money is saved than if you flat call pre flop and the board comes 9-high in my opinion.
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