50NL: TPTK Gets Raised And Shoved
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Hero open-raises the BU with AQ, BB calls.
Flop: Q69
BB checks, Hero bets $3 into $4, BB calls.
Turn: Q693
BB checks, Hero bets $7.5 into $10, BB raises to $21, Hero calls.
River: Q6937
BB bets $28 into $52 and is All-In, Hero calls.
Lets assume villain is a regular (even though in this hand villain was a spewtard).
How would you guys play the hand? I think betting flop/turn and calling down the raise and the shove is fine but maybe I'm wrong...
If you agree with not folding the turn: Would you rather call or shove all-in once check-raised? ( I guess if I'm going to call the river I have a better EV by shoving over his turn check-raise, correct?)
Last edited by Acryl2; 03-10-2019 at 07:26 PM.
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Just shove turn vs the spewtard imo, he either has Qx+ or a draw so if we're not folding we might as well get it in vs draws, the SPR is low.
Vs a reg sometimes we fold, more precise read, our image, the dynamic and all that can matter it's never obvious, usually not folding though because we barrel a lot of draws on that board so if we b/f something so high in our range we become very exploitable pretty easily, he has tons of FD/JT to c-r turn. But we'll find quite a few regs/nits who only c-r 2pairs+.
B/c to fold bad rivers in doubt can be considered and is not that bad, we can do that with some draws, but the thing is if we think he has enough draws for us to beat his range shove makes more sens and if we don't think he has draws we should fold.
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Originally Posted by xamlop
Just shove turn vs the spewtard imo, he either has Qx+ or a draw so if we're not folding we might as well get it in vs draws, the SPR is low.
Vs a reg sometimes we fold, more precise read, our image, the dynamic and all that can matter it's never obvious, usually not folding though because we barrel a lot of draws on that board so if we b/f something so high in our range we become very exploitable pretty easily, he has tons of FD/JT to c-r turn. But we'll find quite a few regs/nits who only c-r 2pairs+.
B/c to fold bad rivers in doubt can be considered and is not that bad, we can do that with some draws, but the thing is if we think he has enough draws for us to beat his range shove makes more sens and if we don't think he has draws we should fold.
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If the guy is not a spewtard and fairly passive, then that x/r on the turn sucks hard. It's as blank of a card as any on a dryish board, this usually means two-pair at least, if not a set.
With him being loose and bad though, I agree just ship it on the turn.
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This super gross even if villain punting 45cc got there too. Not folding, call take a note. If it's a set just lol and note it and print money barreling off in future streets.
Would consider a turn jam if villain is super spewy and likes xr most combo draws turn eg 3cXc,47cc but wont follow through on river. Since you're basically getting frerolled by their equity and they are not getting punished.
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