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50nl Top set, passive player leads turn and riv; std fold? 50nl Top set, passive player leads turn and riv; std fold?

01-24-2010 , 01:59 AM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($44.75)
BB ($51.20)
UTG ($47)
UTG+1 ($52.75)
UTG+2 ($50)
MP1 ($80.90)
Hero ($137)
CO ($55.40)
BTN ($53.60)

Dealt to Hero K K

fold, fold, fold, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, fold, fold, fold, fold, MP1 calls $1.50

FLOP ($4.75) T 9 7

MP1 checks, Hero bets $3, MP1 calls $3

TURN ($10.75) T 9 7 K

MP1 bets $3, Hero calls $3

RIVER ($16.75) T 9 7 K 8

MP1 bets $7.50, Hero folds

MP1 wins $15.95

Villain is 28/6 over 900 hands. Typically when these kind of players take this line on this turn, it's a flush. I call to boat up. I miss, and I don't see him value betting worse on the river, and on this kind of board. Standard fold?

Oh and please refrain from saying something silly like "you have a set, get it in" unless you can back it up.
50nl Top set, passive player leads turn and riv; std fold? Quote
01-24-2010 , 02:11 AM
I'd fold there too.
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01-24-2010 , 02:31 AM
Fold is probably the correct answer, but this is one of those spots where i call just cuz it is top set and i am getting 4:1
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01-24-2010 , 02:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by luka allen
Fold is probably the correct answer, but this is one of those spots where i call just cuz it is top set and i am getting 4:1
+1
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01-24-2010 , 03:31 AM
If the river doesn't complete the open ended straight I'm definitely calling, but not feeling great about it. Good fold I think.
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01-24-2010 , 04:15 AM
WP; on this board i'd also fold the set
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01-24-2010 , 08:40 AM
Definitely not getting it in on the turn since we're so deep and the pot is so small. Nothing bad in keeping the pot small imho.

I'd probably raise $2.5 or $3 preflop and make it like $4 - $4.5 on the flop. Turn and river seems fine by me but I might be a bit too weak-tight.
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01-24-2010 , 09:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by I vi ii V7
Typically when these kind of players take this line on this turn, it's a flush.
I also see the lone flush ace there.
I like the river fold because there´s also that nasty 4-straight.
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01-24-2010 , 09:19 AM
pot the flop on this board versus a passive player.
I think we still can raise the turn for value, he can have many two pairs, or pairs + OESD or pairs + FD that he is gonna call a lot.
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01-24-2010 , 11:01 AM
i'd raise more preflop, because 2 ppl have position on you and one loose passive (not likely to fold for another $.5 or $1) limped. i'd raise more on the flop because flop gives your opponent an insane amount of possible draws. turn and river look good.

he's passive, so when a flush is showing he will not bet 2 pairs, or pair+draws, and if he did bet them i think he would spaz and psb or shove them (or like a minbet blocking bet).
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01-24-2010 , 02:33 PM
never ever fold this river.
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