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50NL Top pair weak kicker oop 3bet 50NL Top pair weak kicker oop 3bet

01-31-2011 , 07:22 PM
Button is playing 22/10 over about 30 hands and folded when another reg 3bet him about 5 mins ago. Best line?

Cassava Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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UTG: $49.90
MP: $9.26
CO: $50.00
BTN: $43.16
SB: $65.06
Hero (BB): $52.05

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 9 7
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6, BTN calls $4.25

Flop: ($12.25) 7 6 3 (2 players)
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01-31-2011 , 07:28 PM
why are u 3betting if u dont know how to play after?
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01-31-2011 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by kidacao
why are u 3betting if u dont know how to play after?
I think the 3bet will show an instant profit. I want to get an idea how the guy plays. I don't think I will get flatted too often
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01-31-2011 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PistonHead
I think the 3bet will show an instant profit. I want to get an idea how the guy plays. I don't think I will get flatted too often
Make light 3bets OOP AFTER you have some reads on this guy..
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01-31-2011 , 08:01 PM
50NL, people really wait for postflop reads before they start 3betting weak looking players?
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01-31-2011 , 08:06 PM
just because something shows an immediate profit doesnt mean that you should be doing it
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01-31-2011 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by subs
just because something shows an immediate profit doesnt mean that you should be doing it
I understand why this is true in some cases but not sure why it applies to this situation
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01-31-2011 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PistonHead
I understand why this is true in some cases but not sure why it applies to this situation
because he has no idea what to do in this hand..
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01-31-2011 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by As1an1nvas1on
because he has no idea what to do in this hand..
But at the time I 3bet I thought my immediate profit from making the 3bet was enough to outweigh the unlikely possibility of getting flatcalled then flopping a tricky mid strength hand
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01-31-2011 , 09:37 PM
try to check it down or bet/fold to any further agression
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01-31-2011 , 10:13 PM
Just because you saw him fold ONCE to a 3bet doesnt mean he will fold every time. Fold pre.

As played Im cbetting here around 1/2 pot. Not cbetting is just a recipie for disaster. You'll get caught up in a real ugly spot not knowing when to cf, cc etc.

Now this is why it sucks not having reads. Once you cbet, if he calls you can easily be ahead or behind. He can float with AK, AQ, AJ, A10, KQ and if he has them in his range 22, 44 and 55. The problem is we dont have any idea of his range other than he folded to a 3bet once. Likewise he will call the flop with 88+.

I think Id make the best of a **** situation by going 1/2pot on both flop and turn and then evaluating from there. Best just to not get in this situation though.
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01-31-2011 , 10:27 PM
bet
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01-31-2011 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by p_oker
As played Im cbetting here around 1/2 pot. Not cbetting is just a recipie for disaster. You'll get caught up in a real ugly spot not knowing when to cf, cc etc.
This. And obv no reason to 3bet.
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02-01-2011 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by p_oker
Just because you saw him fold ONCE to a 3bet doesnt mean he will fold every time. Fold pre.

As played Im cbetting here around 1/2 pot. Not cbetting is just a recipie for disaster. You'll get caught up in a real ugly spot not knowing when to cf, cc etc.

Now this is why it sucks not having reads. Once you cbet, if he calls you can easily be ahead or behind. He can float with AK, AQ, AJ, A10, KQ and if he has them in his range 22, 44 and 55. The problem is we dont have any idea of his range other than he folded to a 3bet once. Likewise he will call the flop with 88+.

I think Id make the best of a **** situation by going 1/2pot on both flop and turn and then evaluating from there. Best just to not get in this situation though.
I'm stuck again. If cbet half pot on the flop and he calls the pot is ~25, his stack ~36. I bet half pot again on turn, the pot is gonna be 50, he has about 23 left. I can't see how my bets have made this situation any easier.
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02-01-2011 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by p_oker
Just because you saw him fold ONCE to a 3bet doesnt mean he will fold every time. Fold pre.

As played Im cbetting here around 1/2 pot. Not cbetting is just a recipie for disaster. You'll get caught up in a real ugly spot not knowing when to cf, cc etc.

Now this is why it sucks not having reads. Once you cbet, if he calls you can easily be ahead or behind. He can float with AK, AQ, AJ, A10, KQ and if he has them in his range 22, 44 and 55. The problem is we dont have any idea of his range other than he folded to a 3bet once. Likewise he will call the flop with 88+.

I think Id make the best of a **** situation by going 1/2pot on both flop and turn and then evaluating from there. Best just to not get in this situation though.
I'm stuck again. If cbet half pot on the flop and he calls the pot is ~25, his stack ~36. I bet half pot again on turn, the pot is gonna be 50, he has about 23 left. I can't see how my bets have made this situation any easier.
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02-01-2011 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PistonHead
I'm stuck again. If cbet half pot on the flop and he calls the pot is ~25, his stack ~36. I bet half pot again on turn, the pot is gonna be 50, he has about 23 left. I can't see how my bets have made this situation any easier.
maybe you need to reevaluate the 3 bet then if you have no idea what his range is? just sayin...
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02-01-2011 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by subs
maybe you need to reevaluate the 3 bet then if you have no idea what his range is? just sayin...
Exactly.

If we take a typical tag 3bet calling range, and he calls, there is a good chance you are beat by an over pair and youre going to have to let it go after your cbet. Check turn and hope to get to showdown.
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02-02-2011 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by PistonHead
I'm stuck again. If cbet half pot on the flop and he calls the pot is ~25, his stack ~36. I bet half pot again on turn, the pot is gonna be 50, he has about 23 left. I can't see how my bets have made this situation any easier.
lol this is hilarious
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02-02-2011 , 12:23 PM
Tough spot without knowing anything about your opponent. I'd bet/fold the amount I'd bet with my value range. Check/calling makes the hand too easy to play for villain. (he can easily 2-barrels you off your hand with air/draws, or check behind and hit his pair.). Check/folding seems weak but might be a good idea if you're lost from the flop...
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