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[50NL] started playing poker again, some help with these hands please [50NL] started playing poker again, some help with these hands please

09-21-2010 , 08:55 AM
Ok here are 3 hands from my last session where I wasn't sure what to do, some help would be appreciated. I don't know if this goes against the rules (posting multiple hands in one thread) if that is the case I will split em up.

SB is playing 18/11/5 with a 3b% of 4 over 64 hands
BB is 38/28/1.5 with a 3b% of 9 over 69 hands and is quite a calling station
IPoker Network $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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SB: $22.13
BB: $32.50
UTG: $29.69
Hero (CO): $50.75
BTN: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with T A
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.50) 9 T 3 (3 players)
SB bets $4.50, BB calls $4.50

Should I shove here and hope that none of the villains have a legitimate hand?

This hand I decided to 3b UTG since his fold to 3b% is high and the button squeezes light, so I'd rather not flat here

UTG 24/22/3.3 with a 3b% of 9 over 126 hands
BTN 24/20/2.8 with a 3b% of 14 over 190 hands
IPoker Network $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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SB: $22.24
BB: $15.00
UTG: $64.31
Hero (CO): $63.40
BTN: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with 8 7
UTG raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN calls $4.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $3

Flop: ($14.25) 6 6 9 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $7.12, BTN calls $7.12, UTG raises to $59.81

I put the BTN on some sort of pocket pair 22-TT I think he would 4b squeeze with AK and JJ+, might be that he is getting tricky though
UTG I guess must have something like AQs+ TT+
Now BTN had folded it would be an easy call, now I am a bit confused though


And a hand against a shortstack, villain plays 20/30/4 with a 3b% of 4 over 117 hands

IPoker Network $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BB: $15.00
UTG: $24.66
MP: $60.99
CO: $50.00
Hero (BTN): $52.00
SB: $56.65

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 9 A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.75) T T 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.75) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.75) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.00, BB raises to $12.25

Figured I might make a small valuebet to suck small pocket pairs in, I don't expect Ahi to call since I have the diamond ace, but maybe 6x and other pocket pairs. But then he reraises me allin, is this ever a missed flush draw?
09-22-2010 , 03:01 AM
Ok well since nobody commented, I do it myself . In hindsight, I think hand 1 is a shove, he could have something like Tx, or maybe 2 overcards, maybe even an overpair, but he is quite short and we have the added money of the BB in there who rarely has a hand that beats me here.

Hand 2 is close but I think I should call here, 99 could be in their range, but I think overall we are flipping against their entire range and we do have a big chance that the BTN will fold.

Hand 3
Obv I should have bet the turn there, but I am still confused on the river, fold/call both seems ok to me. I doubt he will slowplay a flush like this, and Tx, 87 seems unlikely too. Then again I do have an aggressive image I guess, but my bet could also be inducing blufs here obv 50/50.

But if someone else could have a look at these, I would appreciate it.
09-22-2010 , 03:07 AM
hand 1, shoving is a little too big. raising is fine. their calling range is likely to be wider if you raise to ~14 or whatever than it is if you shove.

hand 2, that's simply a matter of plugging their ranges in pokerstove and figuring out if you ever think the btn is calling.

hand 3, i'm betting the turn.
09-22-2010 , 03:15 AM
hand 1 - dont shove it looks like he has a decent hand (33 99) maybe 87 JQ

i either make it 10 or call, i call alot more often, that bet looks rlly strong

hand 2

he obv has like 10 10 or watever and idk the exact odds but u r behind and i dnt like the paired board so i dnt know if ur outs are exactly live but i doubt he has 99, i think button might actually

so its an easy fold with 47ish behind

hand 3

bet 4 on turn

and his line screams bluff, cuz ur bet looks so so sosososos weak on river that he prolly has some kind of missed draw and is trying to blow u off ur hand
09-22-2010 , 03:16 AM
h1 is an easy fold, you are behind their collective ranges when sb leads for pot and bb flats with the pfr to act behind him, and you have basically no way to improve.

h2 I would probably start by changing tables. You do not want to be to the right of the player on the button. This hand is trickier, I don't hate preflop, sounds like you had a decent reason to play it like you did. What was your 3b like on this table? How was your image? Your play really depends on the answer to that question. UTG would probably just call and keep you both in with 99/66, so his shove looks like slowplayed KK/AA (which would probably just 4b pre with buttons dead money and to avoid a 3 way pot) or maybe a better FD?

Buttons range is also probably stronger than you think if you have a decent image, you 3b an utg raiser preflop and cbet into two players on this board, you are repping a very strong hand and he calls you with utg still to act behind him. His play is pretty consistent with 99/66 or 6x

That is a pretty tough spot, but considering you have only invested $12 and you may be drawing to two outs I probably let that one go as well.

h3 you look pretty fos and he is repping pretty thin, not too many nutted hands check three streets here, esp after the turn checks through. I wouldn't hate a call here although I think you see Tx/44/bd hearts a decent amount of the time
09-22-2010 , 03:25 AM
hand 1 i am not a fan of shoving tptk multiway
Hand 2 what reason do we have to believe that btn has 99 of all hands? Also vs what range are you behind on this flop?
Hand 3 bet turn
But thats just my opinion
09-22-2010 , 04:02 AM
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