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nl. River value against nit reg?+Line check. nl. River value against nit reg?+Line check.

05-02-2011 , 06:20 PM
Villain was running 60/45 over a small sample. He had not 3 bet once before this hand (the 25th or so of the game).

He had been playing very passively especially post flop, folding to all my c-bets, only firing one barrel himself in position, folding a high % of buttons, folding a lot from the BB etc.etc.However he was a up £2000 or so according to PTR over a large sample, (and we all know how reliable that is).

I had been somewhat running him over. I was winning all the small pots in position and had been firing barrels and stabbing at most things




    Full Tilt, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9250392

    BB: $50 (100 bb)
    Hero (SB): $55.65 (111.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 8
    Hero raises to $1, BB raises to $4, Hero calls $3

    Flop: ($8) 9 T T (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($8) J (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($8) 7 (2 players)
    BB bets $4.30, Hero calls $4.30

    Spoiler:
    Results: $16.60 pot ($0.50 rake)
    Final Board: 9 T T J 7
    BB showed J A and lost (-$8.30 net)
    Hero showed 8 8 and won $16.10 ($7.80 net)



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    Pre-I minraise because he was folding to them with a very high frequency.

    Flop- I check intending to call then reevaluate/ fold the turn.

    Turn-I can't think why I didn't bet this...I suppose I didnt want to be check-raised off my hand. I really should have bet to fold out/get value from his A,q A,k type hands, yes? Although I feel he may have been capable of check/calling something like A,9/j

    River-I figure he only calls my raise with hands that beat me and he only bets out with a strong range of hands. As an aside,if i were to raise, how much should I make it, something like $11 total?

    Edit-I still feel like a massive nit for calling though

    Last edited by AntonioCassano; 05-02-2011 at 06:29 PM.
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    05-02-2011 , 06:28 PM
    Nothing worse calls a river raise, imo. NH, except maybe 1/2 pot on turn.
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    05-02-2011 , 06:29 PM
    ~11/fold

    betting the turn is meh. You say you'd been running him over IP so i assume from that he's giving you too much credit, so pretty sure you just value/cut yourself here.
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    05-02-2011 , 06:39 PM
    Open ended Str8flushdraw :O
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    05-02-2011 , 06:40 PM
    i bet flop for value from fd's, floating overs and ax hands

    raise/fold to $13 @ riv
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    05-02-2011 , 06:48 PM
    I'd take same line and then pop the river to 11 also. Especially because you've been winning most pots he might just wanna look up with worse
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    05-02-2011 , 07:01 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by moteutsch
    Nothing worse calls a river raise, imo. NH, except maybe 1/2 pot on turn.
    because everybody plays perfectly and nobody ever makes mistakes...
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    05-02-2011 , 07:09 PM
    Moteutsch are you a ******?

    Are you serious?

    Are you a troll?

    Do you know how to valuebet?

    Do you play FR, or HU?

    **** me.
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    05-02-2011 , 08:19 PM
    not raise/fold 'ing this river is hugely nitty
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    05-03-2011 , 01:00 AM
    bet flop if u will get him off Khigh Ahigh hands that have decent equity against u or worse hands that call.turn is a must bet..river i am not raising if he is a nit just call.but u missed two streets of value...
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    05-03-2011 , 02:15 AM
    I would bet the flop 100% against this described villain. Letting him get a free turn with AK type hands is a disaster especially because he's not likely to fold them for one street. The river is totally fine, I don't expect most people to call a raise with worse given how nasty the board looks, and he could absolutely have a full house.
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    05-03-2011 , 02:18 AM
    Raise $12/fold ainec, he will definitely look you up with worse but more to the point he has better like 1% of the time anyway.
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    05-03-2011 , 02:32 AM
    cbet,let the draws pay and protect your cbet turn openendedstrflushdraw..call river if he bets and is a nit
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    05-03-2011 , 02:48 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Barewire
    I would bet the flop 100% against this described villain. Letting him get a free turn with AK type hands is a disaster especially because he's not likely to fold them for one street. The river is totally fine, I don't expect most people to call a raise with worse given how nasty the board looks, and he could absolutely have a full house.
    do u bet the turn after a flop cbet?
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    05-03-2011 , 03:27 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IPLAYUPAY
    do u bet the turn after a flop cbet?
    I was going to say it's probably around breakeven but I looked into pokerstove and it seems like we're ahead of a range that includes very few weak hands and a few slowplayed boats:

    Board: Th Ts 9h Jh
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 53.052% 51.88% 01.17% 799 18.00 { 8c8h }
    Hand 1: 46.948% 45.78% 01.17% 705 18.00 { 66, AcQc, AdQd, AsQs, AcJc, AdJd, AsJs, T9s, AcKh, AdKh, AhKc, AhKd, AhKs, AsKh, AcQh, AdQh, AhQc, AhQd, AhQs, AsQh, AJo }

    This doesn't even consider the fact that making him fold AKcc or whatever is a pretty good result, so yeah I'd bet the turn with our hand.
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    05-03-2011 , 04:42 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PaperWalls
    Moteutsch, are you a ******?

    Are you serious?

    Are you a troll?

    Do you know how to value-bet?

    Do you play FR, or HU?

    **** me.
    Hahaha, only an out-of-practice player posting at 1 AM. Chill.

    Yes, I take it back, raise/fold 11.

    Spoiler:
    OMG, are you illiterate?

    Do you not know how to spell?

    Do you not understand the proper use of punctuation?

    Do you not understand the purpose of paragraphs?

    JFC.

    P.S. red = no, green = yes.
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    05-03-2011 , 07:06 PM
    1 AM, that nearly did it for me. You know about timezones right?

    Rest of those questions seems pretty sad, or maybe their just another troll post, cuz it sure as hell dosen`t help anyone itt.
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