Villain 9/0 over 20 hands or so. Not much of a sample at all but definitely raised an eyebrow. Say I did re raise and he shoves. I really don't think it's EVER A10, and if it is, I truly think that's the very bottom of his range.

Note: More of a 6max guy, seems people really nit it up like crazy on FR and feels like a set. I guess I almost 'need' to re raise to see where I'm at?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $53.60
SB: $50.00
BB: $50.00
Hero (UTG): $67.65
UTG+1: $51.35
MP1: $42.25
MP2: $32.30
CO: $58.55

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $1.50, 4 folds, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 7 5 T (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, BTN raises to $6.50, Hero folds

pretty dry flop i'd put my money on a set, but i'd call and re-evaluate the turn... give up to any further aggression unless you spike a Q

yeah i think folding to his raise is a lil nitty and if im calling im just hoping to spike a queen. hes a multitablin reg so i dont think hes doing this with worse than a weird 2pr/set..bleh. W/evs

lmfao....

Call - if he follows through on the turn particularly a big bet you are likely toast.

aye, I'm just glad I didn't check flop and do something ******ed like c/r. Shoulda peeled one for sure. All I know is I'm havin way more fun at fr than 6h, as exciting as 6h can be...idk actually, people nit it up sooo hard on fr, including myself. I guess there's no reason to get out of line on fr though...

I would bet more on the flop. I mean it's not a particular wet board but one that can get ugly pretty fast so I would bet/call around $3.1 and reevaluate on the turn....which means probably c/f.

I hear ya. But personally I don't think 2.50/3.10ish is gonna make a difference: I guess 3 would be better as it makes my hand a little more faceup (ie overpair to board), which isn't horrible in this spot and if dude raises we can get away from it fairly easy. We were playing on a few tables together, by the end he was running about 18/7/afq 40ish, so IMO I don't think he was f***ing around. Who knows...as i said I do NOT think he is doing this with a10.

*grunch*

Call, try to keep pot on the small side and get to river as cheaply as possible. Unless of course you spike a Q. If he bets big on the turn you're probably beat.

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prob calling down and looking him up vs unknown

Grunch.

Super silly fold here. You don't know if villain is making a mistake RRing with AT and then checks down. You don't know if he's bluffing with 89 or even air on this relatively dry board. Many players will make this mistake with air trying to rep. a set for two streets but will give up on the river when it's "oh ****, he's gonna call me with QQ."

Peel one more street and re-evaluate the turn. I'd call one more if a J or 6 doesn't hit. Give up on river.

I would not RR here. If you had AA, then maybe, he could be slow playing KK/QQ preflop. But with QQ, I think it's thin. Just call - when you RR, he's not gonna get it in with 99ish stuff most of the time...and you let him get off too easy if there is some later value to be had with JJ or a bluff catch on the turn or river.

It sucks, but you can't just avoid a tough spot because it's tough.

This made an otherwise mundane day bearable.

i feel like i just got leveld by everyone.

super std ez fold. welcome to fr.

umm to people saying bet/call flop fold turn please explain why without using level 1 "omg I haz overpair" logic? Just how often do you really think villain is ch/r bluffing this flop and not barreling most turns?

I see villains take this line with Tx and 99-22(omitting the hands that make a set), because they are thinking "omgz he totally has teh AK". Then, they are usually happy to check it down. That, coupled with the times you spike a Q and stack villain, make this an a +EV spot. Although, it usually helps if I have seen him rr the flop once or twice before.

if you're hoping to stack villain when you spike a Q it's a terrible flat. Either he's got a strong range here that you can stack if you hit or he doesn't. If he does you're not getting odds to spike a Q and if he doesn't you have to show me what range he really ch/r then gives up with. I'm not convinced those hands ch/r a bunch here but I could be wrong.

You know... I don't want to give away too much here, but my roommate knows a guy who knew a guy whose brother plays online poker, and he flats EP raises on the BTN with all kinds of junk and then raises some dry flops, and gets a lot of folds. I can't help but wonder how often he's actually making the EP raiser fold like JJ/QQ/KK.

Villain's range is polarized here so when I made my previous statement I gave two situations that I encounter most frequently and you take actions based on your reads and the situation you encounter OTT. Folding every time here is a leak, if you have never been rr by a bare ten on this flop you must be playing in a different dimension. I hope this doesn't sound like a vituperative, it isn't meant to be.

I'm prob b/c flop and calling a lot of turns, and folding brick rivs. I'm sorry this is NL25 and we haz a pair, we have the nuts.

Seriously though, he's repping a narrow range on this flop, and a lot that isn't beating us has marginal equity like gut shots, and TP hands. I just think people are so MUBSy when they have an OP and get raised on these flops, sure they have a set some of the time but we do have the ability to fold, we're not fish. I think people just give others too much credit at these stakes.

This. And hoping to spike a Q is just plain silly as per being a 24:1 shot.

bet/call/fold is pretty much spew-bloat/fold in this situation imo:

• You have an unknown.
• You have an unknown and the average 50nl player, nevermind an unknown, doesn't have a large bluff raise % at all.
• You're OOP against an unknown and only he has any clue as to whether he's bluffing or not.
• Thus, you are the only one that is going to make any mistakes, and very large ones at that, from this point forward and villain will play perfectly near 100% of the time regardless of how you choose to continue.

I might be a sample nit, but I need some stats/reads before I assume that a 50nl FR unknown is pulling crazy **** on me and my UTG range and decide to out-level myself into making razor thin decisions in SA/WB situations for my stack where I have no ****ing clue what his range or frequencies are.

Then call down. I'm not saying flop call is bad, I'm saying flop call with the intention of folding turn is bad unless I'm really really wrong about ranges at 25nl.

Yes I agree. No, calling to fold to a brick is spew typically. I'm sorry I meant NL50 we haz pair I call.

Anyway, I'm a 50NLer with okay results over a decent clip and can tell you that his range here vs an unknown is wide. It's likely we call and see a brick and he checks behind, or a "scare card" comes and he bets on it.

Now if it comes brick turn he bets 2/3 and brick riv and just insta bets 2/3 i think it's a correct fold but that doesn't make our line -EV imo

So you're saying that his flop raise, turn bluffing range is 28%+ of his overall continuance range?