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11-04-2008 , 08:30 AM

cocktails

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,599

No reads other then he played kinda fishy, like limping in and stuff like that.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB)

SB ($69.20)
BB ($12.70)
UTG ($50)
Hero ($56.05)
BTN ($44.30)

Dealt to Hero Q

fold, Hero raises to $2, call, fold, fold,

FLOP ($4.75) T

Hero bets $3.75, BTN raises to $8, Hero calls $4.25,

TURN ($20.75) T

check, BTN bets $5, Hero calls $5,

RIVER ($30.75) T

check, BTN bets $10, Hero raises to $41.05

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11-04-2008 , 08:46 AM

dopepope

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 122

Villains turn bet looks weak or then he has J9 or weak T. But this villain could be scary money because he minraises flop and bets weak on turn. So his bet sizing won't probably tell us much what he has.

River: No draw hit so villain might have T or JJ here. If hero raises that big villain probably won't call with JJ or T. Hero could just call behind or minraise to get value from weaker hand.

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11-04-2008 , 08:53 AM

ruapho

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 111

Call. You will only get calls from a hand that has you beat.

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11-04-2008 , 09:01 AM

PEXOWNS

enthusiast

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 52

without any reads or stats or previous hands, it becomes rather hard to put him on a range.
without those I'd go for the following range:

44, TT, 88, JJ, JT, J9, AT, KT, QT, 9T.

I don't think you can shove for value on the river (only 2 hands that you beat may call you on the river), which is why I lean towards a raise on the turn to prevent him drawing that cheaply (classic bet/call flop, check/raise turn) and to get value from the weaker hands.

Without any reads or stats, this hand plays out a lot harder than it should.

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11-04-2008 , 09:33 AM

JsTs

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,250

I would 3bet the flop/get the money in vs a fishy player. This hand turns out to be very hard to play with your flop line. On the river I need more reads to be shoving here for value but I definitely don't hate it.

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