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08-27-2009 , 01:11 AM

TiltedSkillz

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Villain is new to the table, only 11 hands but is like 40/25

What do you think of bet turn and fold to a raise so he doesn't have the bluff opportunity? better or spew?

River fold? Blah

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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MP: $61.30
CO: $43.00
BTN: $50.00
SB: $90.80
BB: $101.35
Hero (UTG): $88.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with Q

Hero raises to $2, MP calls $2, CO calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($6.75) K

(3 players)
Hero bets $4.00, MP calls $4, CO folds

Turn: ($14.75) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $11.00, Hero calls $11

River: ($36.75) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $44.30, Hero folds

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08-27-2009 , 01:24 AM

reservoirak

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I probably B/f turn and If called go for a blocker/value bet on the river.By checking we just dont know were we are when he fires the river.

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08-27-2009 , 02:56 AM

adios11

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Originally Posted by reservoirak

I probably B/f turn and If called go for a blocker/value bet on the river.By checking we just dont know were we are when he fires the river.

I like it very much.

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08-27-2009 , 03:00 AM

mg0698

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as played fold is good

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08-27-2009 , 04:53 AM

Syberduh

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Super easy fold on river without a great read. I think c/c is fine on the turn vs. most opponents too.

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08-27-2009 , 05:26 AM

Spenda

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I'd expect the turn to go check-check a lot and when it doesn't I don't hate folding

noting that the flop was 3-ways strengthens his range somewhat significantly

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08-27-2009 , 06:26 AM

WelshJOE

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Originally Posted by reservoirak

I probably B/f turn and If called go for a blocker/value bet on the river.By checking we just dont know were we are when he fires the river.

this

i prefer a b/f on the turn, when you check it to him he might be betting his medium pair thinking he's protecting against your AQ or whatever, then when you call he might turn his hand into a bluff on the river, leaving you with a tough decision.

as played easy fold on the river.

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08-27-2009 , 06:29 AM

wishiewish

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I would bet/fold or check/fold turn.
Check/calling doesn´t make any sense.

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08-27-2009 , 06:34 AM

ItsMyShow

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i would of checked that flop , maybe im being a bit tight but against three players wed get ourself into a tough position on the turn if called being OOP

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08-27-2009 , 06:36 AM

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wishiewish

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You want to check call 3 streets with your QQ?

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08-27-2009 , 07:04 AM

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skraper

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Originally Posted by ItsMyShow

i would of checked that flop , maybe im being a bit tight but against three players wed get ourself into a tough position on the turn if called being OOP

This misses a ton a value from smaller PPs. You can get 3 streets of value vs 88+ on this board.

I b/f turn. If Villain flats turn I probably 1/2 pot river.

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08-27-2009 , 09:28 AM

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TiltedSkillz

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So you're thinking bet/fold turn like $8-9ish and bet/fold river $15.50 into $31 if he flats the turn?

I like it... leaves behind $30'ish effective and is more efficient at not getting taken off the pot. A really good hand reader might be able to exploit that I think but let's be honest, this is 50.

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