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02-17-2010 , 10:21 PM
Villain is 18/15, the button is a 40/3 fishbox.

Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BTN: $10.50
SB: $91.15
Hero (BB): $101.75
UTG: $51.50
CO: $70.15

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 4 A
1 fold, CO raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($4.75) 4 5 3 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.50, BTN folds, Hero raises to $10, CO calls $6.50

Turn: ($24.75) K (2 players)
Hero??
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02-17-2010 , 10:26 PM
Lead again ... he'll have TT - JJ there. I actually like just leading this flop into both of them.
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02-17-2010 , 10:28 PM
raise a little more on the flop... pound the turn.. ship the river
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02-17-2010 , 10:39 PM
Turn: ($24.75) K (2 players)
Hero bets $18, CO calls $18

River: ($60.75) K (2 players)

The river seems like an awful card to me, it makes it much less likely I actually hit a K, but I guess I still credibly rep a set. Do I ship river or has he made up his mind on the turn about calling the river?
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02-17-2010 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by verneer
Lead again ... he'll have TT - JJ there. I actually like just leading this flop into both of them.
Normally so would I, but I like checking the flop because of the "fishbox" (great word) in the middle. Our relative position is great.
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02-17-2010 , 10:44 PM
i think we can profitably shove the river
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02-17-2010 , 10:47 PM
We are 150BB's deep here, does that make any difference?
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02-17-2010 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fattony7891
We are 150BB's deep here, does that make any difference?
i think thats what makes it more profitable... if we were 100bb deep wed be more likely to be looked up and it would be harder to size our bets
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02-17-2010 , 11:00 PM
c/c flop and go from there.
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02-17-2010 , 11:30 PM
flop and turn are fine

c/f river as played not the best river obv
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02-18-2010 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by subs
i think we can profitably shove the river
I don't, Shoving the river is super spew imo.

Did you notice the villain is a 40/3 fish? He's not folding better than our pair of 4's (often enough) imo. Plus we have showdown value vs. straight draws and lower flushes (minus Kx flushes obv).

I like our flop and turn play.
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02-18-2010 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by pohlr96
I don't, Shoving the river is super spew imo.

Did you notice the villain is a 40/3 fish? He's not folding better than our pair of 4's (often enough) imo. Plus we have showdown value vs. straight draws and lower flushes.
try again
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02-18-2010 , 12:59 AM
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he villain must fold at least 40% of the time.

Input: $40/0%/$61

for a 3rd barrel to work

i dont think he folds that often
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02-18-2010 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by subs
try again
Thats constructive.

SHOVE WOOOO!!!! Nice advice.
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02-18-2010 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pohlr96
Thats constructive.

SHOVE WOOOO!!!! Nice advice.
the villain isnt a 40/3 fish... read the first line of the post
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02-18-2010 , 04:40 AM
I think his cbet range is very strong since the flop is 3way and there is a calling station yet to act. I would probably c/c on the flop and lead out good bluff cards (K, Q, 6) on the turn.
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02-18-2010 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wishiewish
c/c flop and go from there.
How does this change if we are IP? What do we do on various turns that miss us? Lead out as a bluff, c/r?
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