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11-21-2007 , 10:25 AM

creamfillin

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,954

vs. unknown

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($51.60)
Hero ($48)
Button ($18.20)
SB ($18.30)
BB ($81.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A

, K

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UTG raises to $2, Hero raises to $6, 3 folds, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($12.75) 8

, 2

, 7

(2 players)
UTG bets $2.5, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?

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11-21-2007 , 10:29 AM

Profish2285

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,919

Im folding. I HATE folding because of that stupid little bet, but this is a 3 bet pot and something tells me this guy has a pocket pair from that move. Its either a set or some mid pair and I dont think hes folding to a flop raise. I used to just call that bet alot and see what happens on the turn but that hasnt had much success for me. I am pretty much expecting villain to make a psb on the turn once we flat his flop donk.

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11-21-2007 , 11:24 AM

traz

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lol you can peel given his betsize

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11-21-2007 , 11:28 AM

jasonfish11

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I dont play 50NL so take this with a grain (pound) of salt.

I notice this being a blocking bet many times. I see villian having A

here very often. I have been raising this to $10-$12 and folding to any more resistance. Most of the time villian has been folding to my raise.

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11-21-2007 , 11:34 AM

creamfillin

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I notice this being a blocking bet many times. I see villian having A

here very often.

If he had AdJd he should 3-bet me all in.

I assumed it was some kind of feeler bet with TT/JJ or something but no one is probably "feeling" with overpairs at this level and are looking to stack off. I think a call is probably the best option. I wouldn't mind folding but we're getting like 6:1 and that's not a bad deal with AK high.

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11-21-2007 , 11:38 AM

Profish2285

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You can peel with those odds but the problem is if your 6 outs are clean or not.

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11-21-2007 , 12:04 PM

Julio Dalehurst

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In my experience at 50nl, this is usually a monster (set, overs and flush draw, etc.) rather than a blocking bet, its almost as if hes giving you odds to call. Without reads, I'm folding. Raising is alright but I don't like calling as I wouldn't feel overly comfortable with additional pressure on later streets even if I hit an A or K.

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11-21-2007 , 12:17 PM

Majour

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Folding here is usually the best move, although its always awful folding AK with a 3-bet missing the flop. because alot of the time they could be holding AQ, AJ. I dont like the idea of raising, as you are only going to get called or re raised with something better.

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11-21-2007 , 01:10 PM

intheflatfield

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I think monster is def. poss. However, if he had 88 or 77, I would think he would be cking to the pf raiser and then ck raise or float the flop. And if he does have over pair, why bet so little, giving u prop odds to call unless he has pocket overpair / big ace w/ FD

My best guess is that he is trying to set the price on his draw plus overpair or big Ace w/ diamond draw. If you flat call here, I think you are letting him draw on the cheap here. Call not an option here for me R>Fold

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11-21-2007 , 01:39 PM

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nutstoyou

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11-21-2007 , 01:47 PM

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hockeyf

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Raise if called shut down unimproved.

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11-21-2007 , 02:07 PM

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burns

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Raise if called shut down unimproved.

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