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03-15-2010 , 03:34 PM

ianzxcvbnm

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 464

Villain hasnt been calling many of my 3 bets which is why i 3 bet this.

In previous 3 bet pots i bet folded on 739ss, and bet K27, and check folded Q turn

My reads on him post flop IP is he can double barrel with air
Likes to limp re raise
He also enjoys bluffing

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) ($92.85)
SB ($109.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9

, 10

SB bets $1.25, Hero raises $4.50, SB calls $3.50

Flop: ($10) 3

, 6

, 8

(2 players)
Hero bets $7, SB calls $7

Turn: ($24) 8

(2 players)
Hero

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03-15-2010 , 04:20 PM

Jollypapp

enthusiast

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 92

If he isnt calling many 3bet he has a very narrow range here. Given ur reads he cant be particularly good. But i would just give up most of the time in these spots, even though he can have tons of draws and he will often call with them on the turn too.
So if u choose to fire again u have to fire the river too almost always.

So id go with cf

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03-15-2010 , 04:23 PM

Impact

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 348

I'd c/f turn. From your previous 3bet examples, it seems that he understands that if he has a draw he should raise for FE where as if he has a pair on a dry board (the 2nd example), there is no point to raise since you cannot call with a worse hand.

I would think he's raising this flop with a draw/air and just calling with a pair/showdown value. He hasn't been calling your 3bets much, so he probably has a decent hand here. Even if its Ace-high like AJ or AT, this turn is a bad card to get him to fold because he could easily think he's good here.

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03-15-2010 , 04:34 PM

vins84

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 180

I'd just c/f

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03-15-2010 , 06:57 PM

WhateverSon

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,304

If he doesn't call too many 3b then I wanna be careful postflop against his range and cbet only a few boards
You did get a good flop to cbet which is standard but when the board pairs on the turn c/f is probably the best option unless you have a great read that he peels many flop cbets and folds to many turn cbets

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03-15-2010 , 07:47 PM

Briman51

adept

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 847

i think roughly the same % of his range folds to $5.5 as folds to ur $7 cbet, also u get to barrel turn cheaper and fold out his Ax, and air floats planning on bluffing turn. But given your bet sizing i'm not sure this is profitable.

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03-15-2010 , 09:26 PM

spit22

adept

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 884

given your reads i wouldn't even cbet here . He hasn't called 3bets in a while so he either :

a) has a legitimate hand like AT,AJ etc
b) decides to call with a questionable hand and make a play by floating etc

Neither will fold to a cbet , and you might as well just give up. Anyway cbet is not THAT bad. but yeah turn doesn't help although you do pick up a gutter. If i decide to cbet and i think he is never raising turn i would barrel again and bet big any river that is not a face card or an ace if i sense weakness when he calls turn.

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03-15-2010 , 11:40 PM

tanuLean

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 338

c/f or b/f turn if you think you have decent fold equity vs him.

in a vacuum c/f is optimal imo.

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03-16-2010 , 01:48 PM

Briman51

adept

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 847

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Originally Posted by spit22

how can you "sense" weakness?
if we cbet half pot we need him to fold 33% of his range to our cbet. seeing as all his face card hands missed this might be a fair assumption, plus sometimes when he calls we'll hit our gutter and win more money.So he probably only needs to fold about 25% of his range for our cbet to profitable.

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03-16-2010 , 02:05 PM

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tazzius

stranger

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 9

op can you explain "enjoys bluffing"? I'd usually expect this to indicate a willingness to play back at your 3bets.

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03-16-2010 , 02:40 PM

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Briman51

adept

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 847

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Originally Posted by tazzius

op can you explain "enjoys bluffing"? I'd usually expect this to indicate a willingness to play back at your 3bets.

this

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