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08-09-2010 , 06:07 PM

gvn2fly

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 41

Villain was playing around 60/50 during session. 3bet: 20%, and flop CR of 25% over about 100 hands so far. I was playing fairly aggro too and 3 betting light (35% during session). No major sparks... he called a river bluff.. and I called down a hand which paid him off.. he was up $20. PF call was because we were slightly deep and I felt comfortable playing post flop against him.

What do you think villain's range would be here?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $73.65[/HTML]
Hero (BTN/SB): $73.65

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with 9

Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.00) T

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6, BB raises to $18

fold, call, raise? .....

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08-09-2010 , 06:20 PM

Kylebranham

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,009

He's got flush draws, gutters, two overs with back door draws, KT, AT, high pocket pairs, 66, 22, TT. You have to just flat here, and I would probably call most turns then fold most rivers.

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08-09-2010 , 06:26 PM

Sherman

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Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,766

Well I know this wasn't me (the key being that villain was up $20), but I'd call the flop and see what happens with a plan on calling the turn. I might even shove over a bet if the turn is a 6/7/8/9 non-diamond.

Any idea on his turn aggression? How have your responded to his c/r flops in the past? When you called, what has he done on the turn?

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08-09-2010 , 07:35 PM

icemonkey9

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 447

You're ahead of his 20% 3bet range here and I think he check raises you with FDs and overs like every time here. He might do this with his value range too. I think you're definitely calling here, you can't fold. The question is raise or call. If you call and he checks you can bet and if he shoves, I suppose it's a fold. If you call and he checks and you bet he'll fold his overs. If you raise this flop and he does have an over + FD he's getting it in so you have to be prepared for that.

This is me thinking out loud, hopefully it made some sense.

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08-10-2010 , 12:28 AM

gvn2fly

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 41

Thanks for the responses so far. His turn aggression is 1.7. I can't remember any big hands where he check raised flop.

I called.. turn he shoves...

Hero calls $12

Turn: ($46.00) 2

(2 players)
BB bets $50.65 all in, Hero

Spoiler:

Last edited by gvn2fly; 08-10-2010 at 12:39 AM.

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08-10-2010 , 12:33 AM

Money022

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,809

Looks about right.

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08-10-2010 , 01:41 AM

Kylebranham

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Yeah super standard. Call flop c/r and then call his turn shove on a blank. EZ game.

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08-10-2010 , 05:21 AM

Noppey

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Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,640

Snap call this great turn.

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08-10-2010 , 05:40 AM

ifloptopset

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 328

Yeah very EZ game if you play against Villains on 50nl who bluff shoves bad bluff cards 100% of time.

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08-10-2010 , 07:31 AM

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HU101

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 108

flop is call. turn I think depends on whether villian shoves with a draw.

Dunno how to interpret the flop c/r? he could want you to think he has a draw here - the turn is a good card to shove.

given his 3bet freq i suppose a call is ok. meh but i'd probably fold because its just such a bad card to bluff shove

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08-10-2010 , 07:45 AM

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tayskala

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 403

whole hand is wp.

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Originally Posted by HU101

given his 3bet freq i suppose a call is ok. meh but i'd probably fold because its just such a bad card to bluff shove

No one cares if turn is "bad card to bluff" since villain always ships the draw on the turn. He may give up complete air, but with this line on that board he's range consist almost always with draws, which almost every villain is going to ship on the turn no matter what the card is.

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