lol, shows how out of the loop i am tyty

yeah it's a pool of high concept crushers

Mixing in a 4bet jam range is a thing if they are using GTOWizard 50nl ranges.

If they are, then their range is likely KK, QQ and AKo

wow, guess i should do some studying and get a hud if my nightly 100 hands is going to be a thing

but tbh i was quite happy he did that and let get out vs his monster cheaply and if he had A4s then good for him he earned that about 3.50

Those 4b shoves supposed to make AKo type hands indifferent but is anyone folding those?

Guessing but think it hurts population winrates still at nl50 that often it's a bunch of tables/pools all regs clicking away playing their own standard game, not realizing they're all slowly losing to rake.

It's usually AKo and folding out poket pairs is the best outcome for him

I guess that makes some sense given it blocks AA/KK and you don't want to play OOP

but i also feel like it's the picking up nickels off the ground in front of a moving steamroller strat

also arguably losing a lot of EV vs the hands you're not indifferent to that wouldn't ever call like Ax, KQs, etc

definitely something to think about and this gives me more incentive to play around with gto wizard

ty for the feedback guys, this ex live reg truly appreciates it

Rickroll, you’re forgetting about all the solid pairs that hate life in this spot, like 99-JJ.
And you’re also forgetting that when you fold out 40-55% equity against AKo you are winning the pot outright every time, with no rake paid as well.

Also easier to lose the pot postflop OOP on ugly boards when you in fact have the better hand is another factor why this is a thing.

You also get to insta stack QQ with KK and pile in bb ASAP in lots of spots where it is very ideal. Think of how amazing it is here when you 4b jam AKo and V folds AKo.

Becomes less of a thing much beyond 100 bb’s though, keep in mind. I assume the threshold for those massive 4b jams stops being better around 120-130 bb, but I am completely guessing on that. Haven’t looked into as I don’t personally make those 4b jams pre (almost never anyway). I see it a fair bit more than 2 years ago online though I think at low stakes.

Yeah, I'm always gettin' love from the homies...

nice little session while waiting on golf sims


and look at what i learned



in all honestly knowing that this is known as a tough field and that i only sometimes get love from the homies is genuinely wanting me to put some real effort into studying poker again - even been playing around with gto wizard a bit with some tricky spots after each session (at least until i run out of my free sims which always happens to magically coincide on the last bit of action

You're really not going to be 4b jamming AK in position at 100bb eff, only OOP.

lol, whoopsies

for real though genuinely appreciate you guys as i clearly as deeply out of the loop

I don't think stuff like this matters for your win rate, but you're welcome. You appear to be doing really well, though, so maybe you are not as "out of the loop" as you might think

Small 4bet is always way better than a shove with AK here. Especially vs good opponents. You get extra value from AQs/AJs/KQs this way and a hand like A5s might 5b shove, so you stack that too.

This is especially true for AKs, as it blocks less of the mentioned hands, if you think about it.

That was why I included this. ^^^

But I also didn’t explicitly say this is only a play OOP facing 3b. My bad.

On the bright side, maybe you folded out JJ or whatever.

we did it boys!

work beckons so ending the session


pool seems very different starting around 1 am est and by 2-3am it gets real hard real quick, going to make a rule to end every session before 1 am

btw i got them preflop charts via screenshotting gto wizard and they are surprisingly in tune with what i was already doing albeit i had quite a few 3! where they argue call or fold but for opening range it's pretty close to where i was already - feels a little nitty, especially on the button (i was opening way wider, hands like Q8o, 87o, A2o, and K5o were snap opens for me before but for the charts it's a fold) but i'm willing to give benefit of doubt and roll with it as it's more likely those were leaks of mine than i just luckboxxed into a better range randomly

but... consulting the charts suddenly makes everything click re:timing as previously i was the only person who acted right away every street whereas now I too tank for a second while scrolling to double check the chart and i'm beginning to think most of the field is consulting these as they play

unsure if i'll stick with the charts but i absolutely believe i should play them until i got them memorized so then when i deviate i know for a fact it's not a standard move and it'll also help me better hand read online villains knowing what the standard play is

GTOwiz mixes 4-bet jams with AKs in that exact configuration.

Interesting to see this. Have seen a group of players in 50 blitz playing 8%+ cold calls and virtually exactly the same pre flop stats :/ also using very similar opening strats. 3x CO and BTN and 2x UTG and MP with limps mixed in too. Has anyone else noticed this too?

I've noticed a big influx of regs open limping UTG/MP and cold-calling 3bets on ignition. If they're bots they're really shitty ones

This was my thought also and perhaps it's a shared strategy a group of regs are playing, but the previous message itt indicates the high cold call could be a sign of a bot.

50NL Blitz on ACR (at least Black Chip Poker) is like at least half bots and they are good imo. Even the regs are good, but there are still fish so with rakeback it's not impossible but Ignition is so much softer.

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ya probably bots

The bots at 50nl blitz and 200nl blitz are some of the easiest "players" to play against. They all do the same exact things (although they recently added a 1/3 sizing on the river), and are highly exploitable. Just keep track of what sizings they use in particular spots, how they react to certain sizings, and what type of hands they raise. You'll come to similar conclusions as most regs in the pools