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10-12-2009 , 07:30 PM

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lol becuase a K high flop is good for us

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10-12-2009 , 07:31 PM

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Folding here would be terrible

Do you mean folding to the 4bet is terrible?

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10-12-2009 , 07:31 PM

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The flop we get doesn't matter that much iyam

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Do you mean folding to the 4bet is terrible?

Yes.

I'm not folding any hand I 3-bet here with, let alone folding AK wtf

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10-12-2009 , 07:33 PM

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The flop we get doesn't matter that much iyam

Yes.

I'm not folding any hand I 3-bet here with, let alone folding AK wtf

You flat pot becomes $30 villain c-bets any flop for $22 say, what are you doing

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10-12-2009 , 07:34 PM

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any good reasons for calling?

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10-12-2009 , 07:35 PM

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Well in that sense it matters a bit more but I'm probably calling.

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any good reasons for calling?

The deeper we are the more position plays a role and less your actual hand holdings

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10-12-2009 , 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksight3

Folding here would be terrible

by my math AK is 50-50 vs AQ+JJ+ and this is a solid UTG deep 3 bettor so this range is pretty generous on the wide side. That being said I agree flatting and taking a flop is probably better than folding so lets keep this one under 10 pages ok?

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10-12-2009 , 07:36 PM

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You're doing it wrong

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10-12-2009 , 07:38 PM

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So you are calling here with 72o? Posistion matters but if has QQ/AK+ and you are calling to c/f a ton or spew on flops you are going to lose money

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10-12-2009 , 07:38 PM

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Also, the deeper we get the more polarized his range becomes weighted towards bluffs.

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So you are calling here with 72o? Posistion matters but if has QQ/AK+ and you are calling to c/f a ton or spew on flops you are going to lose money

Why would I 3-bet his UTG open with 72o?

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10-12-2009 , 07:39 PM

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The deeper we are the more position plays a role and less your actual hand holdings

LOL. and to be agreeable for once, yes this is the reason

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10-12-2009 , 07:40 PM

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becauses you are in posistion and your hand doesnt matter.

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10-12-2009 , 07:41 PM

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becauses you are in posistion and your hand doesnt matter.

You're either leveling or you don't understand 3-betting

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10-12-2009 , 07:44 PM

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becauses you are in posistion and your hand doesnt matter.

Well not exactly, but its a very close spot and i think position allows us to call. I mean we have AK here not 9Ts

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10-12-2009 , 07:45 PM

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orly? I am just following what you said.

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10-12-2009 , 07:45 PM

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I just don't see a lot of scenarios where flatting the 4-bet turns out good

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10-12-2009 , 07:54 PM

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Everytime i read Ksight´s posts, i understand why he can´t pass 25nl.

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10-12-2009 , 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wishiewish

Everytime i read Ksight´s posts, i understand why he can´t pass 25nl.

what do you call with?

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10-12-2009 , 08:02 PM

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That's funny wishie (and I only read that post because it got quoted)

You are a complete ******, and the only reason I'm grinding back up from 25NL atm is because I cashed out a big portion of my BR.

I ran hot then BE @ 100NL and crushed 50NL.

Wishie obviously folds everything but AA because he's a complete nit-tard

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10-12-2009 , 08:05 PM

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Position won´t help you at all when there is basicly 2 bets left to get 300bbs in.

I call with AA, KK. I might 5bet bluff with some junk like A2s.

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10-12-2009 , 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wishiewish

Position won´t help you at all when there is basicly 2 bets left to get 300bbs in.

I call with AA, KK. I might 5bet bluff with some junk like A2s.

you understand that this is exploitable?

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10-12-2009 , 08:14 PM

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You understand that being unexploitable is not the key to crush 50NL.

Oh 4betting in villain shoes with QQ is even more exploitable with the stacksizes. So he must have junk or we are totally crushed.

Last edited by wishiewish; 10-12-2009 at 08:21 PM.