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02-01-2010 , 07:41 PM

BoterSmoter

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Everest Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): $49.75
UTG: $41.40
CO: $55.30
BTN: $89.50
SB: $80.30

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with A

UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, UTG calls $2, CO calls $2

Flop: ($7.75) 5

(3 players)
Hero bets $5.50, UTG calls $5.50, CO folds

Turn: ($18.75) K

(2 players)
Hero ???

Villain is 32/15/2. Fold to cbet 60%, call cbet 40%. 136 hand sample.

Bet, call a shove?
Bet, fold to raise?
Check, call?
check, raise?
check, fold?

What is the standard here, and why?

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02-01-2010 , 07:43 PM

Ksight3

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Bet small-ish like 8

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02-01-2010 , 07:44 PM

Bigheadarch1

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b/f still alot of hands to get value from

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02-01-2010 , 07:51 PM

RaiseDaAce

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I would check back this turn. I am not terribly afraid of the flush but this is a typical way ahead way behind spot, where he probably wont call your turn bet with worse if you barrel again but might call you on the river. Sure it sucks when a diamond lands on the river but the thing is if he bets then you probably were drawing dead anyway^^(this is probably standard I guess) (with reads of super callstation I would definitely go for three streets of value! for example...)

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02-02-2010 , 03:58 PM

BoterSmoter

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Thx for the input guys. Anyway, I decided to check/call the turn in this hand. now for the river decision:

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Hero (BB): $49.75
UTG: $41.40
CO: $55.30
BTN: $89.50
SB: $80.30

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with A

UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, UTG calls $2, CO calls $2

Flop: ($7.75) 5

(3 players)
Hero bets $5.50, UTG calls $5.50, CO folds

Turn: ($18.75) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $5.25, Hero calls $5.25

River: ($29.25) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $28.15 all in, Hero ???

Note his turn betsize and river betsize.

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02-02-2010 , 04:06 PM

CianCrillz

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I was gunna say bet small and fold to raise on turn, but what raisedaace says kinda makes sense to me especially with the turn being a K, if you double barrell here he folds alot of his PP's that you beat. So c/c turn sounds good. On the river when he shoves I dunno really I can't see him shoving with worse or bluffing here.

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02-02-2010 , 04:09 PM

Baadbeaat

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I would bet/f turn and make it around 10$. As played, river is fold.

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02-02-2010 , 04:10 PM

hating_uni

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Originally Posted by Ksight3

Bet small-ish like 8

Yes, this.

And c/f the river as played.

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02-02-2010 , 04:16 PM

Baadbeaat

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Originally Posted by RaiseDaAce

I dont like c/c that much. We are probably getting PP to call anyway+we are getting strong diamonds to call. If we c/c t and check river he will be more inclined to bluff and we will be put in a though spot.

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02-02-2010 , 04:33 PM

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matyasbatyam

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 6

bet 14$/fold turn, with c/calling the turn your hand is pretty much faced up, your range is mostly PP's higher than a 5. Anyways betting the turn with aces is good for balance also because you would second barrel with air on this turn like always.

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02-02-2010 , 04:50 PM

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Vision of Shiva

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Originally Posted by BoterSmoter

UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, UTG calls $2, CO calls $2

Flop: ($7.75) 5

(3 players)
Hero bets $5.50, UTG calls $5.50, CO folds

Turn: ($18.75) K

c/c Turn is a huge mistake

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02-02-2010 , 04:56 PM

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antonio1591

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,304

so guys what would you do if you are called on the turn after betting? shoving any non-diamond river? just curious.

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02-02-2010 , 04:59 PM

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Vision of Shiva

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Originally Posted by antonio1591

so guys what would you do if you are called on the turn after betting? shoving any non-diamond river? just curious.

c/f any diamond River

and shove any non-diamond River.

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02-02-2010 , 05:21 PM

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BoterSmoter

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Why is betting the turn here better than checking it?
The Kd kills my action, or I'm beat. Plan was to check the turn, and lead the river (If he checked the turn also). And hope he would call with his 88 or something.

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02-02-2010 , 05:29 PM

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Maxaon

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Why are we calling turn and folding a blank river?

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02-02-2010 , 07:06 PM

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Riverbandit15

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Originally Posted by Maxaon

Why are we calling turn and folding a blank river?

This+plus villian doesn't look nitty, he propably calls turn with most pps with a diamond.

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