villain is 27/20 over 155 hands aff is 4.3 and 3 bet is 7.1. no real history except i stacked him a while ago with aa vs kk and JJ vs AA when he decided to slowplay AA pf.

hate this spot. i think i should fold turn but his line looks like he's giving himself exactly a psb left to fold out hands that i have. i really don't think he's actually thinking about that though. calling turn seems like spew and he's shoving lots of rivers ( at least i would given my line ) calling pf seems eh but logical here but 3 b seems okay but spew if i 3b/f

i'm about 100% i should be folding turn and i knew it but the bet was so eh.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($15)
MP ($50)
CO ($52.05)
Hero (Button) ($50)
SB ($114.15)
BB ($13.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10, 10
UTG calls $0.50, MP bets $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.75) 5, 7, 3 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50, 1 fold

Turn: ($15.75) 2 (2 players)
MP bets $8, Hero calls $8

River: ($31.75) J (2 players)
MP bets $35.50 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $31.75

I think a 3b/f pre would make the hand easier to play.

As played I'd fold river. I'd hate it, but I would do it.

Easier yes but more profitable? That's what we are interested about. What's the most profitable way to play rather than easiest.

The problem with just flatting pf is that you give UTG better odds to stay in the hand. TT wants to be heads-up here.

We should be well ahead of his MP iso range, we have position and we want to be heads up. Therefore we should 3-bet. If he calls the 3-bet, we bet bet bet if checked to; or raise and try to get it in if he donks this flop. Easy and profitable.

With TT and JJ making things simple = profit very often imo.

OP, do you think that MP's iso range is any different (likely weaker) than his opening range? If MP is any good it will be, which would make me more inclined to 3bet (both as a bluff and for value) with hands that play poorly multiway. That is to say, I would flat SCs which are usually in my 3bet-bluffing range and be more inclined to repop with mid pockets for value against an iso.

If MP 4bets, I'll fold or shove TT depending on his 4betting range, with folding being my default until MP demonstrates a propensity to 4bet light.

As played, your hand is underrepped and it's only 1/2 pot so you really shouldn't fold turn. In fact, I'd rather call river than fold turn. When we consider villain's betsizing (halfpot OTT then an overshove), sets and overpairs with which he wants to play for stacks seem unlikely since it makes much more sense for him to bet bigger OTT so that you can call a river shove with 1 pair.

3bet/call pre imo

As played you played it fine

As played you should have folded the turn.

Normally i would not 3bet TT PF vs MP open, but UTG is limping and is prob a looase-passive fish? If thats the case MP will have a wider opening range.
So we are very likely ahead and we want to 3bet to try and get HU with the UTG limper (+avoid going in a 3way pot with TT).

Normally i think we should fold turhn, but then again as you said the bet is very small and he could have some lower OP's/TP or some semi-bluffs. If he had like a set or big OP he would me more likely to bet turn bigger to set up a rivershove that won't be a an overbet

So:
3bet/fold PF imo (we are ahead of MP now, but if he 4bets, that changes!)
call flop good
Call turn OK
River fold

I'm never folding turn.....if he had tens beat here he'd be betting bigger

ROFL wtf is going on there^
no idea what it has to do with the hand but ligic wins thread ainec

Cant stop watching dog. Ligic wins.

nh

i like how ligic has started voicing his disapproval in strategy threads with gifs. it entertains me.

villain is 27/20 over 155 hands aff is 4.3 ....thats part of the informtion we have: by the way u should have more notes as to the way he plays postflop since u have 155 hands on villian.
1) calling the iso raise from villian to keep the fish in the pot pre is alright by me as long as we know we have the skill advantage and positional advantage to make up for playing 10-10 3-way.
2) 3- betting pre knocks out the fish and gets us heads up with a villian who seems to have an idea or is at least a thinking player...thats not we want. besides we dont mind villian because most of his iso range is going to be 6-6+, A-9s+,K-9s+,Q-10s,J-10s,A10o+,K-10o+ which we have 67.24% to 32.76%equity according to stove.
3) on a 5-7-3 flop we are calling villians cbet like 100% of the time. On a blank turn that brings a flush draw, villian bets half pot. villians range could be weighted towards hands like A-Jo+ with 6 outs and a straight draw, A-xs+ that picked up a flushdraw, 6-6 that picked up a straight draw.
4) Most importantly what options do we have :with villian having a aggressive factor of 4.3 im definately not folding on the turn , now how about calling ...i dont like this because we basically letting villian set his price for outdrawing us. Now raising the turn accomplishes several puposes, we dont mind villian folding his equity in the pot with overcards and we dont mind villian calling with hands that we have him beat with.

I would raise shove all in on the turn, thats just my opinion though. i calculated our equity using stove :10-10 vs 22+,A2s+,K10s+A2o+,Kjos range on a 5s 7d 3h 2s board and it came up to 66.02% to 33.97%. Any other valid opinions will be greatly welcomed.

that's a very odd range

for 27/20 it isnt compute it, u have players that go out of their way to iso against fish with that range even as low as J-9s just to play pots with fish knowing that they in position and believe in their post flop skills. its not uncommon trust me. iso raise against fish is much wider than u think.
Maybe u can take out A-2o up to A-8o but that doesnt change the equities by much. just pointing the op to the basis for my opinion . thanks for the tho

that might be his pf range but obviously isn't his turn range :/

I think shoving the turn value towns yourself against overpairs and sets and folds out all the draws.
I think turn is close (probably leaning towards a fold) but if I'm calling it I'm calling this river too.

That's not a good reason to do anything if your goal is to maximize profit.

Why? TT is not going to play all that well against MP's range for calling a 3B OOP; and it plays even worse vs a 4-betting range. The pot being multiway is absolutely fine for TT on the BT. We'll make more $ when we hit a set than in a HU pot, and we can use position to keep from playing a huge pot when we don't.

On what sort of boards will stacking off w/ TT against a reg who has called a 3B and then raised a C-Bet/donked/called down multiple streets be profitable? We're never going to get much $ in as a big favorite against his range w/o a set. Our equity is also going to be meager when he 4-bets, even if he's bluffing more than the average reg.

I'll take TT 3-ways on the BT vs a reg with a fairly wide range and an UTG limper who isn't likely to be very good over HU in a 3-bet pot vs a competent player with a relatively strong range any day.

The only range that matters is the one that he gets all in with, which will absolutely wreck TT here if we raise/shove the turn

lol at the gif, but it would be more appreciated if you provided some constructive advice as well. That dog is jokes tho.

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