tough river spot against unknown. so far has raised every button but chooses to limp here wasn't sure what that meant but i was pretty confident he would raise an ace esp ace 8 and i don't know if he limp calls a junk ace.



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Hero (BB): t1600 M = 53.33
BTN/SB: t1400 M = 46.67

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with Q A
BTN/SB calls t10, Hero raises to t80, BTN/SB calls t60

Flop: (t160) 8 2 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t100, BTN/SB calls t100

Turn: (t360) A (2 players)
Hero bets t220, BTN/SB raises to t440, Hero calls t220

River: (t1240) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t780 all in, Hero calls t780

what are some thoughts on the turn and river. i thought the turn was pretty safe 5x of spades could be in his range but i dont know why he would choose to raise a flush draw when the ace hits my range so hard. that said i would barrel this card with my whole range most of the time and maybe he just didnt believe me. anyway my plan was to call most rivers but i wanted to give him a chance to bluff the river if he was bluffing the turn. good thinking bad thinking?

C-bet slightly bigger, ~t120, on this flop texture.

As played, get it in on the turn. If villain wants to get it in with a made hand we definitely don't mind as we're never folding here with these stack sizes. If they have a draw on this wet board we would want to charge them while we can as well.

looks like 2 pair a ton, but I still call because people are dumb enough to take this line with a naked Ax

do u ship turn or call and check call?

Don't think i'm ever calling that turn miniraise with so little to play with behind on river. Just ship it and hope to see a spazz or some A7o.

It's really close tho would probably fold on turn against people i've seen play good draws passively and don't have a high spazz factor.

Whats so special about that flop texture?

i don't think the extra 20 chips realy makes much difference and i would probly go lower before i went higher on this cbet sizing. i like 100 into 160 though.

one thing that realy confused me was trying to put him on a limp calling range since he had either 3x or fold every button so far. i tried to think logical value hands would have to be 22 33 is possible (although terrible line with these hands imo) a8 would prob get a raise. AA could be a possibility but so unlikely. then i thought of junk hands like 32 83 82 A2 A3. 45 is prob most likely but i dont think im ever folding here to an unknown who could easily just be spewing here with an 8 or A7 or something.


how much merit is there to shove over on turn rather than giving him another chance to bluff if has nothing? or do we just lose vaule bcos he wont always bet the river with hands he would have called the turn?

Yeah, this.

If you aren't folding you should ship the turn. You're OOP, and he probably isn't going to be dusting off on a pure bluff after the min raise unless he is fairly advanced. As well, if something scary comes on the river where he hit's or misses, he's going to play more close to perfect. Basically, if you think you are ahead often enough, just shove because anything that is ahead of you is probably shoving the river.

I don't like the bet on the turn unless you know how your hand holds against his turn raising range. You need a clearer reason to barrel this turn with most of your range.

is the fact that the ace hits my range quite hard and a barrel puts alot of pressure on weak 8s and 1pair hands. obv this is why i would barrel when it didnt hit me here it is pure vaule and protection