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50 RUSH : facing an overpot bet with 2nd pair on river, villain is either a god/maniac 50 RUSH : facing an overpot bet with 2nd pair on river, villain is either a god/maniac

03-22-2011 , 11:05 PM
villain : 21/19/2.5AF over 42 hands

Now I think overpot screams I have a 9 or better sir, please let me get more value than I deserve. But does anyone call a donk that's 1/2PSB - 2/3PSB? I don't like potted/overpot bets simply because they're mostly the nuts or better than one pair hands so that's why I ask.

Also I think raising the turn is a mandatory raise/fold spot, he donks weak draws & TT and bet/3b 9x or better imo

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($126)
BB ($13.25)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($34.85)
UTG+2 ($100)
MP1 ($27.60)
Hero ($69.35)
CO ($50.25)
BTN ($54.70)

Dealt to Hero J J

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, fold, SB raises to $3, fold, Hero calls $1.50

FLOP ($6.50) 9 9 4

SB bets $4, Hero calls $4

TURN ($14.50) 9 9 4 3

SB bets $4, Hero raises to $12, SB calls $8

RIVER ($38.50) 9 9 4 3 Q

SB bets $50, Hero folds

SB wins $36.60
50 RUSH : facing an overpot bet with 2nd pair on river, villain is either a god/maniac Quote
03-22-2011 , 11:10 PM
reallyt not that many FD combos with him betting the Q. think you should turbo fold and move down to 2nl to openshove exactly 2 hands for the amount of times that villain takes this line with no pairs or draws.
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03-22-2011 , 11:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumaterminator
reallyt not that many FD combos with him betting the Q. think you should turbo fold and move down to 2nl to openshove exactly 2 hands for the amount of times that villain takes this line with no pairs or draws.
There aren't lots of SC's/SG's of diamonds in his range? I don't think the Q is relevant, I can still have AA/KK or better and if he thinks his QJ of diamonds is somehow now the nuts then I don't really need to worry about getting value out of him later anyway.

I don't understand 2nl comment
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03-22-2011 , 11:55 PM
Q is very relavent. there is no way he bombs the river with a Queen in his hand unless it's exactly Qs9s or QQ. i just have a hard time putting him on any sort of range with his stats/sample + such a lame ass preflop maneuver.

the 2nl just meant to not trick yourself into calling big bluffs in general. when u are sad that you may have gotten bluffed, go to 2 and gamble aggressively until u feel better.
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