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08-08-2010 , 07:33 PM

MrRunsGoood

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Villian's been raising every button 3x so decide to bluff him off a pot.
Post flop reads, he didnt cbet a A59 flop early in the match and folded to my turn donk. He can c/r dry flops, stab turns when I check back the flop.
I've been playing 52/45, raisng 60% of buttons and this is my first 3bet vs this opponent

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 5.25 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t1450)
Hero (BB) (t1550)

Hero's M: 51.67

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7

, 8

SB bets t60, Hero raises to t180, SB calls t120

So when he call's I'm feeling pretty shi!ty about my hand

Flop: (t360) 8

, 4

, 3

(2 players)
Hero bets t220, SB calls t220

definitely not a bad flop. I bet out for protection and to get value from any overs he called me with pre.

Turn: (t800) J

(2 players)
Hero....

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08-08-2010 , 07:52 PM

jayn

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IMO u should just defend 87o here always. If I'd like to 3bet-bluff, I'd do it w/ hands that I normally fold, like K3 etc.

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08-08-2010 , 07:54 PM

borderline

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I dislike doing it with a hand like K3 cause so often you'll get calls from K9-KQ and then you flop a K and you're in a sucky spot.

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08-08-2010 , 07:57 PM

jayn

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Originally Posted by borderline

I dislike doing it with a hand like K3 cause so often you'll get calls from K9-KQ and then you flop a K and you're in a sucky spot.

Do you still prefer the idea of 3betting hands that you are going to muck over 3betting connectors (that you are going to defend)?

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08-08-2010 , 07:58 PM

spamz

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dont 3bet bluff, ez game

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08-08-2010 , 07:59 PM

lagdonk

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Bet/call turn 300 should be okay

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08-08-2010 , 08:03 PM

borderline

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Originally Posted by jayn

Do you still prefer the idea of 3betting hands that you are going to muck over 3betting connectors (that you are going to defend)?

yes. but i'd rather do it with like T5s than K3o.

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08-08-2010 , 08:05 PM

jayn

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Originally Posted by lagdonk

Bet/call turn 300 should be okay

If we would have been cbetting only 180, would you prefer b/f ~290? I really hate that jack on turn btw, esp. against this kind of opponent at these stakes.

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08-08-2010 , 08:09 PM

jayn

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Originally Posted by borderline

yes. but i'd rather do it with like T5s than K3o.

I understand what you are saying. What kind of a (rainbow) flop would you like to see w/ T5 when getting called pf?

If I'm playing against opponent I wanna 3bet bluff and do it w/ K3 and flop top pair, I'm normally getting it in btw.

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08-08-2010 , 08:37 PM

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MrRunsGoood

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Originally Posted by lagdonk

Bet/call turn 300 should be okay

So get it in he he shoves over my raise? Guess we would have to considering what i would have left.

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08-08-2010 , 08:42 PM

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Tortured Existence

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3bet bluff goes right amiright

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08-08-2010 , 08:59 PM

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MrRunsGoood

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nah, ran in set of 4's....
But ended up making a HUGE comeback, so all good.
Generally, do we every 3bet bluff in sng's as we often don't see opponents again and monkeys at low limits call with ATC. Comming from a 6max background you think about balance and such but I guess we just widen our vallue range in sngs, right?

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08-08-2010 , 09:26 PM

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lagdonk

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Originally Posted by MrRunsGoood

Um, no. We do 3bet bluff in HUSNGs. It's essentially NL poker just like anywhere else, after all -- with special format considerations of course. We just use experience and common sense when doing it. Like we try to ensure that villain is right for it. And true, we do realize after playing for a while -- at the lower stakes especially -- that a significant percentage of the (non-reg) player pool calls 3bets kind of light. So yes, against an average low stakes unknown, we're better off 3betting wide for value. Until they show us otherwise (for example, they actually fold to some of our value 3bets.)

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