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5/10NL - Weird river spot vs. Alldie 5/10NL - Weird river spot vs. Alldie

06-25-2008 , 02:05 PM
SB is alldie who has improved but still sucks imo is super spewy preflop but plays decent postflop i guess. I know he's up a ton on me in the past few days, but anyway, he's playing normal today, nothing out of control, but this spot was pretty weird.

Full Tilt Poker $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $2377.00
Hero (BB): $1476.75
UTG: $1125.50
MP: $2626.25
CO: $544.00
BTN: $1175.00

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with A 3
2 folds, CO calls $10, 1 fold, SB calls $5, Hero checks

Flop: ($30.00) 3 A 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($30.00) 5 (3 players)
SB bets $20, Hero raises to $80, CO folds, SB calls $60

River: ($190.00) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $165, SB raises to $390
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06-25-2008 , 02:07 PM
Call. No value in a raise.

Easy game.
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06-25-2008 , 02:36 PM
this ^^^
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06-25-2008 , 03:55 PM
shoveeee, i don't see any hands that beats us except 55. no way he played 88 this way. It really lookse like a 3Xss that's gonna call our shove so we getting maximum value.
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06-25-2008 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Nielsio
Call. No value in a raise.

Easy game.
what?! raise to 1k or something.
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06-25-2008 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasterbator
what?! raise to 1k or something.

Ok, so what is he possibly calling a turn-raise and then c/r on the river, that we beat?

3x for value (Q3/K3), 53s, 24s.

This should be pretty obvious to any regular, so if we put in another raise he should know we have a boat, which leaves him no hands to valuecall with worse.
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06-25-2008 , 06:27 PM
Click it back seems like a viable option here considering we're only beat by 55 (I would think he'd raise 88 pre) and he'd have to have a ton of history to call with worse if we shoved.
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06-25-2008 , 06:38 PM
i definately can find a raise here.
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06-25-2008 , 06:49 PM
I like a flop bet here, does anyone else?
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06-25-2008 , 07:04 PM
definately
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06-25-2008 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rampage_Jackson
I like a flop bet here, does anyone else?
No way, you flopped the nuts, keep the pot small.
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06-25-2008 , 08:03 PM
First off, raise your position. Secondly, the only hand he could possibly rep that beats us is 55. Third, he is known to spew.

Going with that, I think you can raise here safely. I also like a flop bet because he is known to float often vs tight regs w/ dumb crap. BUT knowing your image is tight/passive and he is well aware of that, checking given YOUR image is better.
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06-25-2008 , 08:12 PM
i raise because **** him thats why
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06-25-2008 , 08:20 PM
I vote for raising
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06-25-2008 , 08:28 PM
Any chance villain could hold A5,A8?

Last edited by Lion; 06-25-2008 at 08:36 PM.
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06-25-2008 , 08:40 PM
raising is a function of how often he'll stack off with a lone three. otherwise there's essentially one hand you beat he calls with, 35ss, and one hand you lose to, 55, so long as he didn't get spewy with 88 after just completing pf? i could see him multitable-completing with 88, checking the flop to see what happens, betting the turn after flop gets checked around, calling the raise since you could have a draw or just air and prob wouldn't raise an ace there after checking it on the flop, then hitting the river and c/ring, i'm not ruling that out.

that said, if he's prone to stack off with a three (especially with the flop check possibly confusing him) i think river is instaship, but i'm not sure that's the case since you're not bet/shoving a naked three on the river and he should know that. i lean towards just calling here.
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06-26-2008 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by cero_dinero
i definately can find a raise here.
is he more likely to have 55, or the case 3 (or air)? assuming 55 is just as likely as a 3 (plus the chance of air), then we should just call, right?
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06-26-2008 , 01:13 AM
bet flop raise river easy game
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06-26-2008 , 01:20 AM
Wow this it tough. Honestly I could see him having 88 here. 55 also possible. I don't think he has many weaker FHs, and i think of the size of the c/r was more so he could safely fold to a shove. I agree hes not that good but I don't think hes going to be calling a big river 3b with a worse FH much of the time. I just call.l
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06-26-2008 , 01:29 AM
Not betting flop seems terribel
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11-03-2008 , 08:56 PM
sorry to bump this old ass thread but results plz!
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11-03-2008 , 09:15 PM
3bet riv to $825 and puke if he shoves. 55 is only possible hand; he could have something like 38ss or 35ss. If he had 55 I think he would raise river bigger, he could always have 24ss, and 88 is like ruled out because of his call of the turn raise. AA is basically impossible.
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11-03-2008 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by a breath of air
sorry to bump this old ass thread but results plz!
i think i went to 925.00 and he snap folded.
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11-03-2008 , 10:53 PM
I'm hardly ever checking this flop. And I think raising this river as played is super spewy unless it's against an absolutely awful villain that will somehow call with worse.
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11-03-2008 , 11:18 PM
minraise to induce like a real man
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