I have no stats on the guy, do not run a HUD. This guy has won 90% of the pots he was in, 100% at showdown. Always a premium hand at showdown.

Did I extract the maximum for this hand? He timed at river and timed down from 80 seconds to 3, before finally calling.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $10.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (UTG) ($873)
MP ($1472)
CO ($790.95)
Button ($1199)
SB ($1057)
BB ($185)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, J
Hero bets $30, 2 folds, Button calls $30, 2 folds

Flop: ($75) J, A, J (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: ($75) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $62, Hero raises to $150, Button calls $88

River: ($375) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $225, Button calls $225

Total pot: $825 | Rake: $3
Main pot: $825 between Hero and Button, won by Hero

lead out on the flop

The edit was removing the results. I'll put them back in later if people are actually wondering.

Max value would be bet, bet, bet and shove over any raise. Also reload pre.

+ if he is as tight as you say he isnt ever bluffing here when checked to so i would just bet bet bet to try and extract value.

His calling range post flop imo seems to comprises of some pps, flush draws floats A10+ and some J10-KJ kind of hands so you may as well c bet because if you check to him he is most likely checkling back everything but the J+ and is gonna call down a street or 2 with his Ax+ range but may not bet it.
Anyway inflating the pot is always a good thing if he is calling with a hand like 88s because you get to bust him if he floats and he fills up and if he makes a flush he isnt folding the turn either
I think you rep too hard with your line because now you check raised the turn he might slows down with a J as well thinkin he is either way ahead or way behind here

how bad is a river ch/r if we get ther in this spot?
or is he checking back here wayyy too often

bet the flop, you're trying to be tricky and making it look like you're fos but in reality any decent player will realize somethings up when you dont cbet then start going nuts on later streets

Why not lead flop and/or turn?

His hand @ showdown was pretty weak just for a button call, imo. He had 7/4 of spades, he turned the flush. I think he just wanted to play against me, because he won a decent sized pot off me earlier AK vs AQ and we blow flop an ace. I think he felt that he would outplay me, which isn't doubtful. I just assumed he had an ace in hand, but you never know.

Not knowing his hand, I believe he checks behind.
Knowing his hand, I believe he bets and a check raise would be ok, but after C/R on the turn, I didn't feel checking was an option here.

I felt that if had any mid pair, he would just fold it off. I mean, nothing is going to beat my hand that he wouldn't have RR'ed with PF. I wanted him to make his hand or bet me on turn/river. In retrospect, I would have checked flop still, but I would have bet on turn, and bet hard. He's calling with the flush. I just don't know if I get the river call still, with the AJJ33 board.

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Seriously, just bet/bet/bet.

well played fish

Christ, change your post to:

Isn't that what you're really asking or was there another street you were wondering about? (I mean, if you c flop, you should c turn and prolly river but I don't get the impression that these things are on your mind)

If you really have your heart set on checking the flop, then checkraise bigger on the turn, and bet bigger on the river?


Something to maybe consider is, he's prolly only calling your river bet with a flush or jack? If he's tight, and you're swinging for the fences, that would be my assessment. So does he bet those hands himself if checked to on the river? If so, a check-raise will be a much bigger bet than you leading out yourself. I don't think this would be viable if you went: bet, bet, then check, but since you checked the flop, I think this should definitely be considered.

without any significant reads, I might just bet/bet/bet like 90% of the time. He has to put in a lot of money with a lot of aircombos after ur check to make a check>bet