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04-12-2008 , 06:21 PM
1 first hand is against derekjc. was just kinda hoping he had Kx and would fold since i dont think Ax plays it like he did much.

Poker Stars $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

UTG: $1172.00
Hero (MP): $1262.00
CO: $1357.50
BTN: $1000.00
SB: $410.75
BB: $1409.50

Pre Flop: Hero is MP with K T
UTG raises to $30, Hero calls $30, 3 folds, BB calls $20

Flop: ($95.00) K A 2 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $65, Hero calls $65, BB folds

Turn: ($225.00) 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($225.00) 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $200

2 villain is 28/20 but also a 1 tabler, i dont know anything about him. i called preflop because i thought he was bad just because he was unknown 1 tabler.

Poker Stars $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

BB: $1086.00
UTG: $1000.00
Hero (CO): $1726.00
BTN: $1062.00
SB: $2444.00

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with T 9
1 fold, Hero raises to $30, BTN raises to $110, SB calls $105, 1 fold, Hero calls $80

Flop: ($340.00) 8 4 T (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($340.00) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $245, BTN folds, SB calls $245

River: ($830.00) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $600, SB calls $600
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04-12-2008 , 06:32 PM
1. nah
2. real thin

edit: actually reverse these.
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04-12-2008 , 06:38 PM
dont like either
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04-12-2008 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Praetor
dont like either
yeh, don't hate #1 though, but checking is better imo.
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04-12-2008 , 06:45 PM
hand 2 you are going to see 75 percent JJ and 25 percent QQ. so bleh . hand one is fine I guess.
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04-12-2008 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by xorbie
1. nah
2. real thin

edit: actually reverse these.
not sure if im bluffing or not in the t9 one
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04-12-2008 , 06:46 PM
hand 1 meh aint bad

hand 2 no good... ppl are c/c'ing a decent amount of hands that beat you, and your obv not folding out better
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04-12-2008 , 06:52 PM
to people that dont like #1, why?
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04-12-2008 , 07:07 PM
i think you can get away with betting less in hand one, like 150 or something
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04-12-2008 , 07:09 PM
1 i think might be +EV, i'd maybe bet a little less though if i did this (which i don't cause i'm not g-p). first of all seems like you're rarely beat. secondly once you flat flop and check turn he can't really think you floated so the river looks like a v-bet which he'd perceive you doing with an A, not a K. i think he can fold Kx sometimes
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04-12-2008 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by g-p
not sure if im bluffing or not in the t9 one
yeah neither than can i. but that's not a good thing.
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04-12-2008 , 08:06 PM
Hand 1: I would like it as a value bet if villain wouldn't raise UTG. How many kings are in his UTG range that play like that? KQ, maybe KJ and KT sometimes.

Hand 2: too thin IMO.
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04-12-2008 , 08:15 PM
hand 1 is interesting. i would like it more if he opened from LP because as it is, there are only 2 kings left in the deck and the only reasonable chops you are folding are KQ/KJ - which are 8 combinations, not a very significant range. so as played, i think checking is better than bluffing chops.

hand 2 is pretty thin, but plays like this are usually affected by some outside factor at the table or a good read. im sure you had one.
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04-12-2008 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by xorbie
yeah neither than can i. but that's not a good thing.
wrong ??

Quote:
Originally Posted by jfish
im sure you had one.
wrong!!!!
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04-12-2008 , 08:55 PM
Yeah I don't like 2 either
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04-12-2008 , 08:59 PM
i was in hand 2 and i kinda said wtf when the hand was over
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04-12-2008 , 09:07 PM
Hand 1: Yes that folds Ax.
Hand 2: If you are betting the river there against an unknown and presumably bad 1 tabler, consider betting less so he can actually call with worse. You bet so much I think you are blowing him off all worse hands. Also, I think its rare that a semi-loose player will fold slowplayed JJ (or AT) on a Ten-Hi board once he's made it to the river.
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04-13-2008 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Man of the Sea
Hand 1: Yes that folds Ax.
hand 1 folds Ax never. we're looking to fold chops and that's it
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04-13-2008 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by blankoblanco
hand 1 folds Ax never. we're looking to fold chops and that's it
OOPS I meant Kx. Mistyped there. I agree.
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04-13-2008 , 12:56 AM
hand 1 is good

hand 2 no. gonna adjust captainwacky's range and say like 1% of the time hej'll have 99 and won't fold lol.
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04-13-2008 , 01:42 AM
I don't really like either. On hand 1, I disagree that you don't see a hand like Ax very often, and he's certainly calling every time when the board pairs on the river and he doesn't have kicker issues anymore. I'm not even clear he mucks Kx...

For hand 2, I guess I just think it's a little too thin. I can't really see him calling with worse than this, so I'd probably just check it down and sometimes show down the best hand.
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04-13-2008 , 10:31 AM
1 is OK 2 isnt great
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04-14-2008 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ooooooooooh
I don't really like either. On hand 1, I disagree that you don't see a hand like Ax very often, and he's certainly calling every time when the board pairs on the river and he doesn't have kicker issues anymore. I'm not even clear he mucks Kx...

For hand 2, I guess I just think it's a little too thin. I can't really see him calling with worse than this, so I'd probably just check it down and sometimes show down the best hand.
this
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04-14-2008 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by g-p
not sure if im bluffing or not in the t9 one
god damn aejones got you too!

first one could be a good play against some dudes, but i dunno anything about derek so cant really say.

hand 2 i hate pf and really hate the river... id go on but its for all the lame borings reasons youd expect.
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04-14-2008 , 11:39 PM
first one he called pretty fast with AJ, and i was confused when i saw what he had

second one he timed down and called with JJ. i regretted betting after i typed it in but figured it would be kinda interesting.
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