villain 25/21, 3bet is ~10sh but i felt that he 3bet me alot more this session

c/f
c/c
b/c
shove?

$5/$10 No Limit Holdem
PartyPoker
5 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($1,306)
Hero ($1,125.13)
BTN ($1,000)
SB ($900.75)
BB ($1,005)

Pre-Flop: ($15, 5 players) Hero is CO J 9
1 fold, Hero raises to $35, BTN raises to $105, 2 folds, Hero raises to $215, BTN calls $110

Flop: 3 5 7 ($445, 2 players)
Hero bets $200, BTN calls $200

Turn: 10 ($845, 2 players)

Final Pot: $845

lol wtf are you doing this hand is a disaster, just fold to a 3 bet pre and you wont have to deal with crap like this. you are so screwed here it's not even funny.

spewtastic hand

WTF just shove you have like 550 left in a 850 pot.

pretty easy shove imo. also im all for small 4b's but this is a bit too small for my taste. i like 240-250

MCizz, when a decent, aggressive Villain is constantly reraising us, then the best counteraction is to tighten our raising range but loosen our 4betting range. J9s in a COvButton spot is an excellent hand for this.

for all saying shove..did

That is the 2nd best card in the deck for you.

Now that you've gotten here, you have to push -- hopefully getting a fold (but not likely), and then hopefully hitting your flush or straight.

there's no way you're gonna hit for like 450. if you had check shoved the flop and then you got this turn, river is a guarenteed bink

yeah i didnt think about this. c/f

i probably c\f flop.
shove turn as played, no other ways

Dont particular like pre, esp with the "i felt that he 3bet me alot more this session".

So much dislike flop sizing for obvious reasons.

pre is whatever. flop is ok. turn is the shoviest of shoves

i hate the pf raise sizing. and easy easy easy shove on the turn imo.

Probably not like you could even c/f anyway, oddswise.

Pre sizing is meh, flop is a c/f, turn is ez shove

have fun when you adjust like this while the "decent, aggressive" villain has also changed gears by tightening up his 3-betting range

so ur suggesting not to adjust so he doesnt readjust? obv im gonna open up my 4bet range as long as villain is 3betting almost every button.

or how would u suggest adjusting?

so we are only gonna 4bet QQ+ pre? Pre is fine once in a while, c/f flop though. Shove turn as played.

not sure about this except turn being a v. ez shove. i don't understand why this hand was posted at all

well i wasnt sure what the best play would of been here...obviously i made the right choice by shoving...w/e.

and obviously i got +1!

If you are paying attention to the table dynamics then it will become fairly obvious when Villain adjusts as such. If you are 24 tabling and basing your reads only on HUD stats, then this will be much more difficult to detect.

I'm curious to know this as well. Are we just supposed to fold every time we are reraised? Are we supposed to open much J9s because an aggressive player on the button or in the blinds might reraise? That seems so weak.

it doesnt seem weak..it just seems wrong...but w/e floats that guys boat :]

lol at 4bet sizing. easy turn ship as played.

This is obvious very interesting, so im also curious to listen to peoples thoughts. Normally I try to approach it in a few different ways, depending on the villain.
1) "one step forward", as in, my adjustment to frequent 3betting IP, is a very high 4b%, hence felting all PPs and AT+/KQs ish. Tbh, im not sure about this adjustment, I dont think ive had too much success on this front fwiw.
2) "one step backward", as in, maybe tightening my CO opening from 30% to what..15%? and still keeping the 4b%, not just with a lot less 4b/folding.
3) sit out pre

Obv this is super super player dependant. Adjustment 2 does well against pseudo-LAGs and other non-believers / spewtards, where out-ranging them feels like a simple adjustment, yetp I play against regs who dont seem to adjust if I go down the 2-route.